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jamesd

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I am planning on getting a night vision scope and wondered if a IR illuminater will
make the animal's eyes light up like my red light does.I love watching their eyes come in at night. I hope to get a NV scope this year and a FLIR next year.The most frustrating part of coyote hunting where I'm at is the coyotes are usually light shy. When they hang up at 200 yds its hard to identify them before they split.
Thanks
 
yes eyes will show up very quickly, even on hogs now keep in mind,

You will have a faint light at the source that may look like a Christmas tree light, up to as large a mini bike tail light, depending on what IR you use and that can alert a coyote if he sees it moving and scanning. hence the reason so many of us use thermal to locate and NV&IR to identify. some IR's are better than others when it comes to a signature and have a smaller view of the source, but if your pointing it at the animal and it is looking at you it may spook on the IR light source.

A common tactic I use is to place my call cross and up wind (yes I said it a dose of scent)from the area I think the predators approach will be, and if its dark enough to require IR their attention is towards the call and scent and may not spot the source of IR or notice any movement during scanning.

but the norm has become not to use IR until a need to identify as in after a target is located with thermal and is approaching.
 
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Originally Posted By: the impactzoneyes eyes will show up very quickly, even on hogs now keep in mind,

You will have a faint light at the source that may look like a Christmas tree light, up to as large a mini bike tail light, depending on what IR you use and that can alert a coyote if he sees it moving and scanning. hence the reason so many of us use thermal to locate and NV&IR to identify. some IR's are better than others when it comes to a signature and have a smaller view of the source, but if your pointing it at the animal and it is looking at you it may spook on the IR light source.

A common tactic I use is to place my call cross and up wind (yes I said it a dose of scent)from the area I think the predators approach will be, and if its dark enough to require IR their attention is towards the call and scent and may not spot the source of IR or notice any movement during scanning.

but the norm has become not to use IR until a need to identify as in after a target is located with thermal and is approaching.
Thanks. Not sure if I want to buy both thermal& night vision all at once,trying to decide which to get first.
 
go thermal first!

reason being you will locate more without a light source be it IR or Red, then be in position to light them up and ID before they scadattel out of there. did it a lot with a PS32 and WLT kill light 250. then got frustrated that I was spotting game at ranges I could not ID with a light and went to additional NV scope.

note: the coyote's in my area are very light shy, and if the see a light they bolt, have even seen coons on many times cover their eyes from a light
 
There is evidence from Charles Shawley that says, after breaking down coyote eyes that it's highly possible that coyotes can see IR.

If you are going to get a NV and IR, then just get the headset, and a IR laser, and then you don't have to look though the scope of the gun, you can aim the zero set laser and fire.

If you need more light for a NV, then you can just hang a small red light up or stick it on a pole above you and sit under it.(small red LED will light up everything for you like a spotlight) You will then be hidden from the approaching animals and be able to move without detection.
 
I don't mean to change the subject but what little I've read about the very expensive night vision equipment have you considered The Coyote Light ? I don't own one myself but all the guys that have them love em. Fully adjustable from dim to bright. Just a thought . Good luck.
 
Originally Posted By: Tbone-AZThere is evidence from Charles Shawley that says, after breaking down coyote eyes that it's highly possible that coyotes can see IR.

If you are going to get a NV and IR, then just get the headset, and a IR laser, and then you don't have to look though the scope of the gun, you can aim the zero set laser and fire.

If you need more light for a NV, then you can just hang a small red light up or stick it on a pole above you and sit under it.(small red LED will light up everything for you like a spotlight) You will then be hidden from the approaching animals and be able to move without detection. this is true about the IR. I've seen a faint red glow coming from my area walking back from a kill and it does let off faint red glow. I just use mine intermittently scanning the area looking for eyes and shut it back off. I do most all of my scanning with my FLIR ps32 and NV and IR for ID'ing and kill.
 
"reason being you will locate more without a light source be it IR or Red, then be in position to light them up and ID before they scadattel out of there. did it a lot with a PS32 and WLT kill light 250. then got frustrated that I was spotting game at ranges I could not ID with a light and went to additional NV scope."

I can kill foxes easy enough around here,the coyotes usually hang up just out of the lights range,so I don't shoot.After they bail out I'll check traks to see what it was. Do you think I would be able to ID animals at 175-200 yards with a gen 3 without IR? I am thinking about getting a M845 2.8x scope and a FLIR PS32.
Seems like every one loves the thermals but some say NV is a must for ID.
This is a big investment as far as playthings go so I want to do it right. Hoping to get into this set up for around 6K.
 
With a budget of 6k you can do it very well and have a great setup...and if you are patient you can find some great deals if you don't mind buying used equipment. For inside 200 yards...on your handheld thermal I would definitely say a 320 core unit with wide FOV...the PS32 would do just fine. Depending on moon/ambient light you could ID at that distance with a gen 3 scope, whether it's a clip-on, PVS14, or dedicated nv scope. With IR illuminator and some magnification you can go out A LOT farther than 200 yards. My set up right now is a PVS14 backed up to the day scope with a Torch Pro mounted on top of the scope. It works very well and is effective, but I'm thinking about swapping out that setup for an Aquila or gen3 M845.
 


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