Fur friendliness in 22-250’s

Greywalker

Greywalker

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Hey guys, I just picked up a rem 700 in 22-250 with a 1/14 twist. I’ve only had one 22-250 for a short period where I used it for prairie dogs only. For coyotes I manly use a 20 practical or some sort of 6mm. Fur has been worthless the last several years with a lot of mange. This year it’s actually looking really good so I don’t want to waste hides. Also some of the areas I call mountain lions are possible as well. Due to late cow elk seasons though 6mm cartridges are out unless you have a cow tag for that area. I can legally use a 22-250 with a 45+ grain bullet and be good for mountain lion though. They are really thin skinned so I’m not worried about taking a good shot. I’ve looked through stuff here the last couple days and didn’t really find what I was looking for.

What do you guys really find as fur friendly in a 22-250? What barrel twist? What velocity? What bullet (I’d like to stay with SP or HT bullets no plastic tipped stuff)? Where is your ideal shot placement(I like frontal or shoulder shots)?

Thanks in advance. I don’t know who long I’ll have this 22-250 but I’m looking forward to seeing what I can accomplish with it.
 
I have an older Remington Varmint Model 700, 22-250, I believe a 1966, 6-digit serial number with tomb stone safety, same twist as yours, I stayed in the 45 to 55 area, that twist should be good with the 45grain if that is what you need. I have a couple of rifles in the 22-250 caliber, my 11-year-old granddaughter smoked a nice Missouri buck using one and shooting Hornady 55 gr., ELD bullets... Very happy little girl!! Good Luck!
 
I hunted coyotes in northern Nevada for fur and tried many different bullets in my Tikka 22-250 1-14 twist.
I found that the Sierra 55gr. 1365 Gameking worked the best. I used H4350 powder to keep the velocity down.very accurate bullet and fur friendly.for shot placement frontal shot is best.if standing sideways shoot behind front shoulder.
now I hunting in California and have different barrel same Tikka action with 7.5 twist Bartlien.
I use Lehigh defense control chaos 45 and 55 gr. this is a great fur friendly bullet and deadly.
 
Greywalker said:
Hey guys, I just picked up a rem 700 in 22-250 with a 1/14 twist. I’ve only had one 22-250 for a short period where I used it for prairie dogs only. For coyotes I manly use a 20 practical or some sort of 6mm. Fur has been worthless the last several years with a lot of mange. This year it’s actually looking really good so I don’t want to waste hides. Also some of the areas I call mountain lions are possible as well. Due to late cow elk seasons though 6mm cartridges are out unless you have a cow tag for that area. I can legally use a 22-250 with a 45+ grain bullet and be good for mountain lion though. They are really thin skinned so I’m not worried about taking a good shot. I’ve looked through stuff here the last couple days and didn’t really find what I was looking for.

What do you guys really find as fur friendly in a 22-250? What barrel twist? What velocity? What bullet (I’d like to stay with SP or HT bullets no plastic tipped stuff)? Where is your ideal shot placement(I like frontal or shoulder shots)?

Thanks in advance. I don’t know who long I’ll have this 22-250 but I’m looking forward to seeing what I can accomplish with it.
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Well you ruled out my first suggestion! I use Hornady 50-55 grain vmax with 38 grains of H380 in my Savage 1-12 twist. This is a mild load and shoots bug holes in both of mine.
 
jmeddy said:
A guy that used to post on here that shot and sold 2-300 coyotes a yr swore by 62gr berger i believe.
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If you're speaking of Kirsch, it was 52 Berger Match.

I followed his lead and shoot the same in my 22 DTI at 3500, works great.

Les Johnson, probably because they were a sponsor & because they worked, shot Hornady 52 match bullets as well.
 
I use the Speer 52gr HP Varmint Bullet in my 22-250 and 22-250AI. It is an old-time bullet that was the favorite of fur hunter a long time ago and I've been able to find it all through the shortages around $10./C.

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I even used it one year at the PM Egg Shoot

Egg Shoot rifle, we stopped on our way back to camp from the shoot and hunted with our ES rifles. Straight 22-250
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I just ordered 200 of the Speer 52 HP @ $14 per 100, I'm sure they will shoot well in my Savages as well. Hornady's prices are getting pretty steep so perhaps it is time for a change.
 
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Thanks for the input guys. Sounds like 52 gr hp is the way to go. What speeds are you guys pushing them?

Kwarw123- I’ve just had issues with plastic tips in several calibers. It’s hard for me not to shoot for the shoulder to anchor them. They are too explosive for where I aim. So I’d like something that holds together a little better. Also something that will get good penetration if a lion does show up.

MARKZERO- congrats to your daughter! I really like the ELD’s for big game.
 
MARKZERO said:
I have an older Remington Varmint Model 700, 22-250, I believe a 1966, 6-digit serial number with tomb stone safety, same twist as yours, I stayed in the 45 to 55 area, that twist should be good with the 45grain if that is what you need. I have a couple of rifles in the 22-250 caliber, my 11-year-old granddaughter smoked a nice Missouri buck using one and shooting Hornady 55 gr., ELD bullets... Very happy little girl!! Good Luck!
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I just got finished researching this and if indeed you have a 1966 model it is rare. According to WIKI Remington did not came out with the 22-250 in the 700 until 1965. I thought that 22-250 didn't come around until 1969, I was wrong.
I have not shot a single animal with a 22-250 and have shot them for 30 years. So I should not have commented on fur damage.

Years ago I did load development for my Savage 26" SS Fluted 112 and came to the same conclusion that Mr. Hodgen did.38 grains H380 50 grain bullet, thus the title 380. That used to be a mid range load, I looked at it the other day on Hodgen;s site and it is the starting load! I do not own a chrono on purpose because once you get to a certain speed the extra speed is redundant and burning your barrel up,IMO. The Vmax is designed expend it's energy on impact that us why I recommend it cause I expect on exit wound.
On a real life testing note I load a 40 grain VMAX for my 1-8 twist AR estimated speed of 2600 FPS I get a tiny hole and usally no exit,DRT, they sound like a bag of jello when you drag them,speed kills.
 
Greywalker said:
Thanks for the input guys. Sounds like 52 gr hp is the way to go. What speeds are you guys pushing them?

Kwarw123- I’ve just had issues with plastic tips in several calibers. It’s hard for me not to shoot for the shoulder to anchor them. They are too explosive for where I aim. So I’d like something that holds together a little better. Also something that will get good penetration if a lion does show up.

MARKZERO- congrats to your daughter! I really like the ELD’s for big game.
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That would be the Sierra Gameking 1365 soft point.very study and not a “varmint bullet”.or the Lehigh defence control chaos.
 
The predator will have to be shot at the same velocity, with the same projectile, in the same spot(shot placement), at the same distance, in order to confirm the most "fur friendly" projectile/caliber. Even after that it's a toss up between a pinhole or a flash wound, although it may lean towards one side or the other.
 
RICHARD WALTON said:
That would be the Sierra Gameking 1365 soft point.very study and not a “varmint bullet”.or the Lehigh defence control chaos.
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Richard, thanks for the clarification. I thought gamekings were all HP bullets. I haven’t reloaded many sierra bullets. I mostly reload Berger and hornady. What kind of exits were you seeing with the soft points? I thought those would stay together better and leave a small sew hole on both sides while still ensuring plenty of penetration on a lion.
 
Kwarw123 said:
I just got finished researching this and if indeed you have a 1966 model it is rare. According to WIKI Remington did not came out with the 22-250 in the 700 until 1965. I thought that 22-250 didn't come around until 1969, I was wrong.
I have not shot a single animal with a 22-250 and have shot them for 30 years. So I should not have commented on fur damage.

Years ago I did load development for my Savage 26" SS Fluted 112 and came to the same conclusion that Mr. Hodgen did.38 grains H380 50 grain bullet, thus the title 380. That used to be a mid range load, I looked at it the other day on Hodgen;s site and it is the starting load! I do not own a chrono on purpose because once you get to a certain speed the extra speed is redundant and burning your barrel up,IMO. The Vmax is designed expend it's energy on impact that us why I recommend it cause I expect on exit wound.
On a real life testing note I load a 40 grain VMAX for my 1-8 twist AR estimated speed of 2600 FPS I get a tiny hole and usally no exit,DRT, they sound like a bag of jello when you drag them,speed kills.
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Correction 3600 FPS
 
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Kwarw123 said:
I just got finished researching this and if indeed you have a 1966 model it is rare. According to WIKI Remington did not came out with the 22-250 in the 700 until 1965. I thought that 22-250 didn't come around until 1969, I was wrong.
I have not shot a single animal with a 22-250 and have shot them for 30 years. So I should not have commented on fur damage.

Years ago I did load development for my Savage 26" SS Fluted 112 and came to the same conclusion that Mr. Hodgen did.38 grains H380 50 grain bullet, thus the title 380. That used to be a mid range load, I looked at it the other day on Hodgen;s site and it is the starting load! I do not own a chrono on purpose because once you get to a certain speed the extra speed is redundant and burning your barrel up,IMO. The Vmax is designed expend it's energy on impact that us why I recommend it cause I expect on exit wound.
On a real life testing note I load a 40 grain VMAX for my 1-8 twist AR estimated speed of 2600 FPS I get a tiny hole and usally no exit,DRT, they sound like a bag of jello when you drag them,speed kills.
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I could be wrong, let me look up my date code again, I will post a picture of the rifle, give me a bit...
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