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Tnslim

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I picked up a Glock model 40, 10MM today and am thinking of a red dot sight. Does anybody have feedback on the Vortex Venom? Also has a fairly stiff trigger.......any suggestions?
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Slim
 
I just picked up a 40 myself. Mounted the venom for I indiana deer season this year. First range session was not as promising as I had hope with an average of 6" groups at 30 yards. Going strait to reloads to hopefully tight that up somewhat. also felt the same regarding the trigger. I need to do something about that in the future.
 
I have a G40, with a Vortex Razor on mine. Mine shoots around 2" groups, at 25 yards(free hand), and most of that is on the shooter. I also have a 6" KKM Precision barrel, originally purchased for my G20 SF, that I have tested next to the factory G40 barrel. It might be a bit tighter, in group size, but I sure wouldn't want to live on the difference. When I shoot from a custom pistol rest, at 100 yards, I get about a 5" group, with my 180 gr. XTP full power hand loads.

About the only thing I can say on the trigger, is make sure it has a "-" connector(I believe that is suppose to be factory stock in the G40), and do a 25 cent trigger job, polishing the mating surfaces of the Glock Trigger assembly. You might try an after-market connector, like a Ghost, but reviews are mixed on them. I have one in another Glock target pistol, and it lightens up the pull force some. I probably wouldn't run one in a pistol that I needed to be completely reliable, but the one I have is decent in that target pistol.

As 10mms go, the G40 is a nice pistol, in my hands. I have a G20 SF, and a G40, and my two son's will probably be fighting over the G40 when I die.
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Squeeze
 
I've heard both good and bad on the ghost connector but this trigger does need some help. I'm running Nosler handloads155 gr and they do ok but the trigger hurts the groups.......that and the shooter. I'll give it some more time with rds down range and hope it smooths out some. I've also got a 20 and the 40 is the better shooter but not by much. Undecided on which sight to get.
 
Tnslim,

Obviously I am not aware of your level of expertise with pistols, or Glocks, so if this is old news, please ignore.

Trigger control helps a bunch with Glocks. Try this dry firing. Pull the trigger slowly back to the trip point(kind of like a two stage), and then pull it to break. Keep the trigger pulled rearward, and rack the slide. Now slowly let the trigger travel forward to the reset point, and no farther. Now again pull it to break. Once you get some muscle memory going on letting the trigger just go to the reset point, you are ready to go hot. Again work on getting just to the reset point, and no farther, after breaking each round.

Once you master this trigger control, if you haven't already, your groups should improve. Well improve, if your grip is solid(so muzzle is steady).
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Squeeze
 
Good points Squeeze. I put in some heavy concentration on trigger control yesterday and most likely will get better with more practice but it's tough working around a stiff trigger. In my rifles the triggers make the difference..
 
Originally Posted By: jeremiah1757I just picked up a 40 myself. Mounted the venom for I indiana deer season this year. First range session was not as promising as I had hope with an average of 6" groups at 30 yards. Going strait to reloads to hopefully tight that up somewhat. also felt the same regarding the trigger. I need to do something about that in the future.

I'm not aware of a change in Indiana law that legalizes the 10mm for hunting. If I've missed something I would love to be pointed in that direction as I'm a big fan of the cartridge.
 
There was a rule changes for this year firearms season. Along with the 10mm auto it also allows the 40 s&w. Also 243/6mm hp rifles with brass lenghth over 1.16 and 30/7.62 hp rifles with brass over 1.16. The details are outlined in the dnr hunting regulations both online and in there annual publication.
 
Originally Posted By: jeremiah1757There was a rule changes for this year firearms season. Along with the 10mm auto it also allows the 40 s&w. Also 243/6mm hp rifles with brass lenghth over 1.16 and 30/7.62 hp rifles with brass over 1.16. The details are outlined in the dnr hunting regulations both online and in there annual publication.

As I said, I'd be happy to be proven wrong and you are correct. I was fully aware of the rifle changes but strangely everyone was quite on the approval of both the 10mm and 40SW for deer hunting. I would not ethically use a 40SW based on personal experience elsewhere, but my Kimber 10mm will be on my hip for bow range work this year, thanks.
 
http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/7389.htm
If you read this link clear through it says that 40SW are not legal.
I know that is not the way the house bill was passed (because the whole thing was written ludicrously) I'm glad to see someone got the 40S&W thing cleaned up.

But the 10mm is in finally.

P.S. you have to click on the "equipment"link on that page.

 
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The link provided is specific to rifles. The exception to the rule is listed in the online regulations. There is a two line paragraph stating specifically both the 10mm auto and 40 s&w. It is not well written when a cartridge is legal in a handgun but not a rifle which is the opposite of what we have had in the past. It is not a issue for me as I believe like most that it is far underpowered for the job.
 
You want to see how to shoot a Glock? Go to youtube and find "Instructor Zero" This guy is amazing with his gun skills. Shotgun, Rifle, or Pistol (glock), it doesn't matter. I'm not a Glock guy, but this warrior's skills with one can't be denied.
 
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I carry a 40 S&W Glock for two legged predators, and I hope that is enough should I need it. But I do know the 10mm is enough for whitetails. My G20 SF folded a small buck(wounded but very alive), like a cheap tent, at about 40 yards. Granted, it was a neck shot, but the autopsy showed impressive tissue and bone damage for a pistol round. It was a 180 gr. XTP leaving the pistol at 1300 fps. That gave me a new appreciation for the 10mm Auto.

Squeeze
 
Originally Posted By: MotoHunterYou want to see how to shoot a Glock? Go to youtube and find "Instructor Zero" This guy is amazing with his gun skills. Shotgun, Rifle, or Pistol (glock), it doesn't matter. I'm not a Glock guy, but this warrior's skills with one can't be denied.

Shooting 300 meters, with a wimpy Glock 17(9mm), is impressive! Kind of makes Hickok look like a rank amateur.
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If you look very closely, you can see him take up the trigger, to the break point, get steady, and break the shot.

In general, watching the guy turn and make perfect head shots, with the rifle and/or handgun is impressive. I would not want to be the bad guy sneaking up behind him at the ATM!

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Originally Posted By: jeremiah1757The link provided is specific to rifles. The exception to the rule is listed in the online regulations. There is a two line paragraph stating specifically both the 10mm auto and 40 s&w. It is not well written when a cartridge is legal in a handgun but not a rifle which is the opposite of what we have had in the past. It is not a issue for me as I believe like most that it is far underpowered for the job.

You know having read that page probably a dozen times, I hadn't caught that it was speaking to rifles. They have screwed this thing up so completely that I had a warden tell me that he wasn't even going to check rifle calibers.
 
You have to learn to shoot a Glock trigger, it is different than anything else. I know i put a lot of lead downrange just to be ok, a whole lot more to carry an expert rating with it.



And most non safety pistols will have a stiff factory trigger. You can trust the masses to keep their booger hooks off the loud button.
 
Quote:Going strait to reloads to hopefully tight that up somewhat. also felt the same regarding the trigger. I need to do something about that in the future....Jeremiah, I would advise doing the trigger work first....Having shot a lot of GSSF competitions in past years (9 per year around the country), you will find a lot of accuracy problems going away...With the longer sight radius, and some range time, will produce startling speed and accuracy factors...At 11 yards, I was averaging 24 hits in under 14 seconds with 100% accuracy with a G-20, and even then, usually came in second or third to the younger guys...
 
Old-T,
You shot a G20 in competition? That's an unusual caliber choice for competitions. Why did you choose the 10mm?
 
GC,,GSSF used to have several categories...10mm and .45acp were in the "Major" caliber, while .357 sig,.40 and 9mm were in their own "Minor"...They also had a Mini category in minor and major....I used to shoot a model 17, 19, 26, 20, and 29....The energy factors in the "Plate" stage at GSSF knock downs were really impressive with the 10mm...I liked the 10mm due to the velocity over the .45acp for the other action (steel, bowling pin, etc.) matches I used to shoot where moving targets were involved...The "Texas Star" was a lot easier with the higher velocity, as was the side to side mover where, with a .45acp I had to lead the target by 12-15 inches past 25 yards and with the 10mm it was a matter of 3-4 inches...

I felt that there was no sense in having to adjust for different calibers...With my reloads, I could get very close to the same velocities out of all of them..
 
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