Good article on SE coyotes

live in n.c. . Coyotes answer howls but will not come to prey calls . Area has household garbage piles . could this be the problem ?
 
@ole hat how far are they when you hear them. They'll answer to let others know where they are. If they are pretty far away make a move. You want to get in their bubble. Play the wind and get as close as you can and start a group howl. They will come check it out. Also make it count cause once you educate them you won't fool them again so easily.
 
@ole hat how far are they when you hear them. They'll answer to let others know where they are. If they are pretty far away make a move. You want to get in their bubble. Play the wind and get as close as you can and start a group howl. They will come check it out. Also make it count cause once you educate them you won't fool them again so easily.
There are some close and some farther away . A lone howler started up the other night and there were coyotes going crazy in every direction all around . Will use group howl . thanks very much .
 
How do you know they aren’t coming to prey calls? Or are you just not seeing them come in? I haven’t found anything yet that doesn’t respond to prey calls, except possums, they don’t come in to anything. Called in a coon the other night playing baby rabbit at a low volume.
Most likely it’s your setup. I’m still fairly new at this, but what works best for me is to go listen and mark coyotes I hear on OnX. If I don’t hear any, I’ll try some coyote vocals just to illicit a response and mark that location.
I’ll then back out and figure out the best winds and best spots to call from and wait for the best night to call. Generally when I go back I’m within a couple hundred yards at most from them. If they sound off and I can get closer I’ll do it.
I’ve been starting off lately with a good 10-15min of prey sounds, if nothing I’ll give it 5-10min of silence before I start in with coyote vocals. It all depends on if and how they respond as to what I go to next.
I had a pair respond back and forth for almost 30min and they were within 100yds of the caller and wouldn’t budge. I finally went quiet for 10-15min then started back with low volume Tiny Bunny and they came charging in.
With that said I’ve had a lonely female howl going at max volume and one came charging in and almost stuck his nose in the call before I was able to get a shot.
For me the ultimate coyote vocal is some type of pup crying/squalls/distress sound. They do not stop for me when that’s playing so you better be quick and good. We’ve had them come from dead behind us and my son shot one less that 10yds. It was a “self defense” shot, lol.
 
How do you know they aren’t coming to prey calls? Or are you just not seeing them come in? I haven’t found anything yet that doesn’t respond to prey calls, except possums, they don’t come in to anything. Called in a coon the other night playing baby rabbit at a low volume.
Most likely it’s your setup. I’m still fairly new at this, but what works best for me is to go listen and mark coyotes I hear on OnX. If I don’t hear any, I’ll try some coyote vocals just to illicit a response and mark that location.
I’ll then back out and figure out the best winds and best spots to call from and wait for the best night to call. Generally when I go back I’m within a couple hundred yards at most from them. If they sound off and I can get closer I’ll do it.
I’ve been starting off lately with a good 10-15min of prey sounds, if nothing I’ll give it 5-10min of silence before I start in with coyote vocals. It all depends on if and how they respond as to what I go to next.
I had a pair respond back and forth for almost 30min and they were within 100yds of the caller and wouldn’t budge. I finally went quiet for 10-15min then started back with low volume Tiny Bunny and they came charging in.
With that said I’ve had a lonely female howl going at max volume and one came charging in and almost stuck his nose in the call before I was able to get a shot.
For me the ultimate coyote vocal is some type of pup crying/squalls/distress sound. They do not stop for me when that’s playing so you better be quick and good. We’ve had them come from dead behind us and my son shot one less that 10yds. It was a “self defense” shot, lol.
 
Thanks for the reply . I have been calling behind my shop . Have night vision in small enclosure that i just look for animals from . After i call i stay sometimes up to an hour or more . Have had house dogs come from time to time from about a mile away . Have over 100 yds in front and 300 yards to right and a large pasture behind that . should be able to see anything that comes near . will carefully study your response .
 
So you’re calling from the same spot? How far are the coyotes when you hear them? Just because you can hear them, that doesn’t mean they’ll come unless you’re inside their bubble. Calling from the same spot won’t work.
If I read what you typed right, then it sounds like you’re calling from a shooting house and hoping they’ll come in. It doesn’t work that way. You’d be better off baiting and “hoping” they come in eventually. And I’d stick a camera up and let them come in regularly before attempting to hunt them.
 
Yep…Spurchaser is spot on with his post. You may have unknowingly been busted before and educated them. You may be calling too frequently from the same position. If a combination of the two you’re really screwed! They may be outside of their comfort zone to come that distance. Lots of possibilities.

How often and how many times have you tried this?
 
Thanks for the reply . I have been calling behind my shop . Have night vision in small enclosure that i just look for animals from . After i call i stay sometimes up to an hour or more . Have had house dogs come from time to time from about a mile away . Have over 100 yds in front and 300 yards to right and a large pasture behind that . should be able to see anything that comes near . will carefully study your response .

Put you some dog food and a camera out. Some trapping call lure works to get them to come to a certain spot. Basically bait them like you would a deer.
 
have got two like this . just have to hunt awhile then wait awhile . killed about forty skunks this summer off bait . ( neighbors like this , they dont have to get rid of them . wish you well my friend !!!!!!
 


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