Got An Orion M30C Red Light

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woodguru

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This thing is beyond cool. It has three levels, I found that on the middle brightness setting I have no problem identifying anything clearly out to about 200 yards,it is rated at 700 lumens. I'm using a Zeiss Diavari 3-9x scope that is super clear at night anyway, I'm sure that doesn't hurt

It cost $169 on Amazon, and comes with a remote pressure switch, scope mount, and barrel rail and mount. Well worth the money, changes my calling at night by myself.
 
What other lights have you compared it to?

Looking at that light with the three LEDs goes against everything I know about what makes a flashlight throw.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/for...726#Post2293726

http://www.flashlightreviews.com/features/lux.htm

Lumens aren't a good metric to use when your looking for throw. Most lumen claims are exaggerated and or based on the LED manufacturers specs. It's expensive to measure lumens. I doubt any light maker today goes to the trouble of this to get a useless metric for the hunting industry, here's how it's done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mvyptpA-BmY

This is easily seen with the zooming lights today. The lumen measurement never changes, the lux measurement increases as you zoom it in.



 
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Very scientific. Since lumens isn't a good measure of a light, how would a guy know what to purchase for his needs, based on advertised data?
 
Originally Posted By: 6mm06
Very scientific. Since lumens isn't a good measure of a light, how would a guy know what to purchase for his needs, based on advertised data?

You have to sort through the BS. All the lights will work, most guys buy what they think is the best or brightest based on what they can afford.

Everyone's needs are different and not all lights are marketed the same. At one time Boondock Outdoors had a list of all the lights he sold in order of brightness and cost. I've mentioned this in several posts and it's never surfaced so I assume it's gone.

When a light is advertised by a manufacturer or reviewed by a hunter to be able to ID a critter at a certain distance it leaves too many variables unanswered to be realistic IMO. If two guys have same light, the guy with better vision and better optics is gonna see farther than a guy with poor vision and poor optics, the light doesn't change.

I had a list going but once I found a light that fit my needs I stopped. I also don't have access to all the new lights that are on the market and haven't updated it in years. I hope to add a few lights, I've been talking with a few guys in NY who have different lights and would like to update the list. Maybe after the season.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/for...726#Post2293726
 
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I found boondocks list.
http://www.boondock-outdoors.com/Light_Ratings.html

I calculated the distance (for some) that each light puts out one lux. Whether you understand the lux value or not a critter standing at those distances is illuminated by the same amount of light. An illumination of 1 lux is easily seen, a full moon gives off around .3 lux

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lux

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight

LUX rating at 45 feet:....................illuminated @ 1 lux in yards

248 Wicked Light W402ZF...........................236
245 Sniper Hog Lights 66LR........................234
230 Coyote Light..................................227
140 Sniper Hog Lights 50LR........................177
90 Lightforce PRED9x.............................142
60 EWT XLR250....................................116

As you can see the obsolete XLR250, once marketed as a 250 yard light falls way short of today's lights. That alone should make you wonder.
 
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