Had the last straw with cats!!!

Bryan8

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A few years ago some people up the street moved and left their cats.

There really pissing me off and they crap and pee all over my property.

That got me mad but what really pissed me off was when they started going after my chickens and ducks. I not about to let one get killed by a darn cat.

I can really shoot my rifles in my yard but I can get away with a .22

so that leaves me to trapping... How can I set up and catch feral cats? I have a bunch of 1.5 coilsprings would those work?

Also is it legal to do this?

Thanks
~Bryan
 
you can catch them in a cage trap really easy so no one thinks that your gonna hurt them then get rid of them use sardeans for bait. might be bad if someone sees a house cat caught in a leghold but in a cage they wont think anything.
 
You are asking for serious problems if you get caught killing a cat (dog, horse, etc.) in NY, even if it's supposedly "feral". Shooting may draw attention or maybe a wounded cat that runs away. A coilspring can lead to a very loud cat drawing attention from neighbors, etc. A well placed bodygripping trap hidden from view and baited right would probably work - just be sure the "good" dogs and cats don't get in to it. Poison of any type is a very bad idea. The cage trap is your best bet and gives you the option of getting rid of the cat however you choose - maybe even drop it off at the humane society. Keep the trap covered from prying eyes - the cat will likely still enter it for a free meal. (A mean [beeep] pit bull may be even better, but a trap works 24/7).

I don't suppose you have a local animal control officer that you'd trust to put the effort in to catching these critters, do you? You may have been able to get him involved had you filed a complaint against the [beeep] cat owners that abandoned their cat.
 
I can't legaly kill a cat if it's going after my chickens? It already hurt one and is trying to catch a snack each day..
 
BryanB, When I first retired, my wife and I rehabbed a 150 year old home that still had the Slave Quarters and opened it as a Bed&Breakfast...The neighbors across the alley had seventeen cats hanging around that they fed, but denied ownership (we had complained to the authorities) and one day, a couple of the cats went after some of our guests....

Over the next few weeks, I live trapped fourteen of them and took them for "underwater swimming lessons", across the river and I must be a poor instructor, as only one passed the final exam, and he's never been seen again...

Get yourself a live cage trap and a can of Sardines or Tuna, just put a small piece in the back of the trap, put it next to a building that offers a little privacy and you should have one every two days...Just be sure to put an old throw rug in the vehicle you will be hauling them, cause they will make quite a mess...
 
Bryan - Should you choose to live trap, please don't drop them off at your local farm - I have a dairy farmer friend that people are constantly dropping off cats at. He doesn't need more cats anymore than anyone else. I also don't mean to preach, but if you did use bait out in the open you can catch other things like hawks and owls - they don't generally fare well in a leg-hold trap. Finally, if trouble came knocking on your door and it "got out" to the press there would likely be another wave of anti-trappers coming out of the woodwork. (Here's a good example of how things can go wrong - a friend of mine many years ago had the same problem as you, but he lived in a very urban area. He was a great shot with his blowgun and pegged this problem cat in the lungs with a dart. It ran under a bush on his front lawn. He had to get something more effective, so he grabbed his bow. The cat moved as he shot and he lodged the arrow into it's skull but didn't kill it. It ran across the street with an arrow in it's head and through the neighbor's lawns, never to be seen again. My friend was scared for a week that the cops would find him.)

As for the laws - well, here goes. If a tree falls in the woods but no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? However, if you get caught killing a cat you will certainly have some explaining to do - maybe a little, maybe a lot depending on the agency investigating. Counting "against" you is the first law, your "defense" is pretty clear in the second law quoted. I've added some bold key points.

NYS Agriculture and Markets law covers domestic animals. It states:

§ 353-a. Aggravated cruelty to animals

1. A person is guilty of aggravated cruelty to animals when, with no justifiable purpose, he or she intentionally kills or intentionally causes serious physical injury to a companion animal with aggravated cruelty. For purposes of this section, "aggravated cruelty" shall mean conduct which: (i) is intended to cause extreme physical pain; or (ii) is done or carried out in an especially depraved or sadistic manner.

2. Nothing contained in this section shall be construed to prohibit or interfere in any way with anyone lawfully engaged in hunting, trapping, or fishing, as provided in article eleven of the environmental conservation law, the dispatch of rabid or diseased animals, as provided in article twenty-one of the public health law, or the dispatch of animals posing a threat to human safety or other animals, where such action is otherwise legally authorized, or any properly conducted scientific tests, experiments, or investigations involving the use of living animals, performed or conducted in laboratories or institutions approved for such purposes by the commissioner of health pursuant to section three hundred fifty-three of this article.

3. Aggravated cruelty to animals is a felony. A defendant convicted of this offense shall be sentenced pursuant to paragraph (b) of subdivision one of section 55.10 of the penal law provided, however, that any term of imprisonment imposed for violation of this section shall be a definite sentence, which may not exceed two years.

New York State Environmental Conservation Law covers wild animals. It states:

§ 11-0529. Cats hunting birds; dogs pursuing deer or killing other wildlife in certain areas.

1. Any person over the age of twenty-one years possessing a hunting license may, and environmental conservation officers and peace officers, acting pursuant to their special duties, or police officers shall humanely destroy cats at large found hunting or killing any protected wild bird or with a dead bird of any protected species in its possession.
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5. No action for damages shall lie against any person for the killing of a cat,...as provided in this section.



So, tell us, what kind of birds have you seen this cat killing?
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Bald eagle.... Them cats was smarming the poor thing I had no choice..... LMAO... On A serious note... Be smart, avoid the possibility of problems and live trap.... Good luck.

Rhino.
 
I live in the country and still have problems with people dropping unwanted cats and feral cats. I keep a live trap set most of the year behind the house for that problem.
 
I've used a cage trap and some tuna. You can catch a coon, skunk, opossum, or a cat. Nine times out of ten you'll catch a cat if you live in a crowded neighborhood or a opossum if you live in the sticks...
 
Once upon a time when I lived down South, some guy down the street had about a hundred cats that ran free, mostly in my garden and flower beds. I thought about shooting them; but, there was too many neighbors. Leg holds didn't work since house cats are just as smart as wildcats. I ended up digging the legholds in and covering over with pine needles. For the bait, I buried a stick about 4 feet away at a angle coming over the trap about 4 feet above it. I than took a thin string and hung some shrimp about 3 1/2 feet above the trap. The stupid cat that wouldn't ever step into a trap was now jumping up to grab the shrimp and landing in the legholds with their hindlegs being caught. A ball bat makes a good dispatch tool. Prior to using this method, check your state and local laws.
 
3A Havahart Trap. One end set with a wedge under the front of the pan and an open can of cheap sardines in the rear. Works every time! Just make sure it's a cat. Don't ask.

All them good cats gone to waste!
They're great for starting coonhound pups.

Items needed: 1 field with trees around the edges
1 well bred coonhound pup
1 buddy to to restrain your pup at fields edge
1 cardboard box
1 squeeze bottle coon lard (liquified)or urine
1 cat per release
** Gun Optional

Directions: take box, cat, and urine/lard to center of field. Insert cat in box and close flaps. Insert squeeze bottle through slit in center of flaps and squeeze. Shake well, place on ground and watch that furball fly out of that box. Release dog. The idea is for the cat to make it up a tree before the dog gets him.
You may have to adjust for distance. Repeat as needed. Here Kitty, Kitty..........,Nice kitty, kitty.

J U S T K I D D I N G ! R E A L L Y !
 
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Originally Posted By: Snowshoe Hunter Leg holds didn't work since house cats are just as smart as wildcats.

I've always found cats to be just a couple of rungs higher on the smarts ladder than sheep.
 


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