Harrassing email

Lavoy Oates

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I received an email from an animal lover who puts human lives behind animals. Seems to have a problem with hunters shooting animals. If the moderators will not be offended I will post this message on this thread once I get the ok. I am curious if any of you have had threatening emails also. I believe this person would run over his own mother to avoid hitting a rabbit in the road. I am also going to take the ISP # and see what can be done. Patiently awaiting. Lavoy
 
This is another reason I don't list my e-mail address on any boards. I don't need any whack-job shooting me e-mails or a virus, not to mention the spam.

Good Hunting,

Bob
 
These people make me ill. You cannot have any type of discussion with them. You can patiently listen to them express their point of view for an hour, and as soon as you start your rebuttal they'll drown you out or hurl insults at you. It's quite a popular political tactic. Don't let the other side express their view. Well aware of this over the years I now turn them out. I've been burned too often. Patience wears thin. Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal
 
Yep...I know the type of people you are talking about....I have a friend that works for animal control and he Knew one woman that hit a squirrel and got out of the car in the middle of the road and held its paw until it died... well id say it was already dead just a little shakein goin on..LOL.
 
AR folks and their way of conducting themselves are reminiscent of current world events. The AR whackos are extremists and radicalists just like the Islamic fundamentalists, demonstrating, gesticulating, creating all sorts of furvor and rhetoric to get attention and generate emotions beyond that which allow decent, objective people to formulate decent, objective opinions.

We, in comparison, are the objective, tolerant folks that understand the subtle nuances of population dynamics and wildlife management. We also demonstrate a respectful and abiding sense of tolerance for the opinons of others and are fine with them holding those opinions as long as they do not encroach upon our rights. I do not think it's too much of a stretch to say that the many and varied radical special interest groups in this country tody are in the same vein as the religious zealots around the world who can't make their point with factual objectivity, so they resort to harassment, threats, and coercion in hopes that you'll fall in line out of fear of reprisal, rather than philosophical common ground. Having said that, one must ask: Has it done us any good to try and reason with religious fundamentalists? Your answer will be indicative of where debate will take you with the AR whackos.

What we have here is an e-mail that could be described as an article of passive eco-terrorism. The intent is to generate self shame and anger - both emotions just like fear. You can post it if you want. It's your's now. It isn't anything many of us haven't seen before. But, it might be an eye opener for a few guys that are new to hunting or the AR extremist viewpoint. If you, as a reader, fall into that latter category, be certain to keep your eye on right versus wrong and know that, as a hunter, you choose to actively participate in the system, rather than stand on the outside looking in, hobbled by your own ignorance and hypocrisy. The only valid response to their argument, if there is such a thing, is a simple, "Thank you for sharing your feelings and opinons.", and leave it at that. In the end, we'll command the high ground.
 
Lavoy...

I think it could bring some interesting POV's from some and provide others the insight of "the other side" that may not have seen how these folks think. I say go ahead and post it, if it starts too many problems, we can always take it down. But I don't believe it will be to troublesome...
 
I get them all the time. Makes me feel good to know little old me is causing the freaks such anguish. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

- DAA
 
It is a shame but it does make our lives a little more interesting. I have encountered this type before and one time I had the pleasure to inform an individual that their child survived the surgery after the car accident due to animal testing to create a medicine to save a human life. Their response was not what I had expected. They said, "Animals have rights too. There are other ways to find cures." Tell that to their child.
Anyway here it is.

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"The Littles"

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Date :
Sat, 10 May 2003 15:11:01 -0700

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its people like you that I wish I could slit their throat. it would be fun, no? to watch YOUR blood drain out of your neck while I stand over you and laugh. you sick **** , try shooting your friends instead of animals
 
Its been said that if you have to explain why you hunt to someone, don't waste your time. I can't agree more.

I think Lance H's way of a polite response to the hate mail is probably the best bet. Getting into a discussion with an anti is worthless 999,999 times out of a million, so save your time and go hunting!

Also, everyone should run a current anti-virus program on their computers. I use Norton, and update once a month. Its caught and quarantined one for me so far.
 
I can't believe you guys don't see the logic in that argument. :eek: :eek:
C'mon he's entitled to his opinion, regardless of how he arrived at it.

I have a way to deal with these maroons, that is both effective and entertaining. It works better if you are wearing camo, and have blood on your hands. It will however work at weddings and funerals as well.

I encourage these people to explain in great detail what it is that they despise about hunting, guns or whatever. I welcome all the emotion they put into the presentation and encourage the swearing, spitting and name calling.I listen intently, nodding once in a while. When they finish I politely ask, " Oh! were you speaking to me? I'm sorry I wasn't listening. Could you please start again." Sometimes as they start again, usually much more animated, I'll walk away. If they appear particularly dense, I'll let them rant a second time, until the veins in thier face bulge, /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif then I'll walk away. That's the entertaining part. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

It's kinda like the sig line I saw someplace.

" Don't try to teach a pig to sing, it doesn't work and it annoys the pig." /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Frog, the only logic I see is obtuse. He's considered "sick" because he hunts animals. Legally, in obeyance with State and local laws. But they see nothing sick about "slitting his throat and laughing while he slowly bleeds to death". Not only does that sound maniacal and criminally insane, but is by law a "terrorist threat" punishable by imprisonment. Who's the real danger to society here?
 
I've tried just what that moron said. (try shooting your friends). Im starting to run out of hunting partners so I got to quit doing that.
Im looking to go hunting next weekend, anyone up for it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
I always slip up and tell my friends they can just leave their guns in the truck, cuz I don't wanna haul more back then I hafta! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

On a slightly more serious note, I've gotten love notes via email, from adoring fans in the past too. Some, like one I got from an alleged fellow predator hunter (ha-ha!) are just too good to let lie. I posted it here, as he said some unflattering things about the PM membership in general. Unexperienced in the ways of predator hunting as I am, I did not know at the time it would lead to an apparent "hot-button issue" regarding a certain topic that I shant mention again. I just couldn't believe that someone felt it there right or maybe duty to curse me out for a perfectly legal activity. You'd think I was forcing handicapped spotted owls to smoke crack or something! Geesh!
 
Lance: I guess it's time that I come clean on this board. I am an "AR Whacko". I own six AR15's, and I use one to hunt coyotes. Please forgive me! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Doorgunner,
Admitting you have a problem is the first step to healing. Now, don't you feel better now? You're the kinda ar nut that's welcome at my house anytime.
 
Hi Lavoy Oates,

Just my way to handle it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Report it to the FBI who are looking for just this type of wacko threats.
Let them do their job and more of these "people?" would be taken out.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Just my 2cnts.
 


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