having a BOSS installed?
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Linefinder
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No. Browning does not offer the BOSS as an "after-sale" addition.
Either your rifle was born with a BOSS, or it wasn't.
You can, of course, have a muzzlebrake installed, though a MB has no "barrel tuning" properties. For recoil reduction, though, a dedicated muzzlebrake does a slightly better job at that than does the BOSS.
Mike
Either your rifle was born with a BOSS, or it wasn't.
You can, of course, have a muzzlebrake installed, though a MB has no "barrel tuning" properties. For recoil reduction, though, a dedicated muzzlebrake does a slightly better job at that than does the BOSS.
Mike
FeatherDuster
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Check this out. Its a BOSS system licensed under Browning BOSS. You can mount yourself. Brownells has them. If you cant get there from the link go to Brownells.com and do a search under ADJUSTABLE MUZZLE BRAKE.
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1540&title=ADJUSTABLE+MUZZLE+BRAKE
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1540&title=ADJUSTABLE+MUZZLE+BRAKE
Linefinder
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That Brownell item may be licensed by Browning, but I'm thinking it's licesnsed for "concept-only". The device pictured in the Brownell ad is not a true Browning BOSS device. It doesn't resemble one visually, and it doesn't thread onto the barrel.
I'm not saying it's not a good item, it may be just dandy. I took the original post to be a question of if Browning would install one of their BOSS's on a previously sold rifle.
Mike
I'm not saying it's not a good item, it may be just dandy. I took the original post to be a question of if Browning would install one of their BOSS's on a previously sold rifle.
Mike
FeatherDuster
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I agree with all above. If its something you just have to have, I would trade your rifle in for one that has one. At $200 you will probably come out the same or better.
Pbchucker
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Go ahead and tell me if I am wrong about this, I was told the only advantage to the boss system is if you shoot factory amo through you gun. This way you can tune your barrel to the factory amo you choose to shoot. BUT if you reload you don't need the boss system because you can then turn your load to what your barrel likes the most. Was I fed a Load of dung or was this guy telling me the right info? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
RandyDB
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Go to this site. check under the 7400 7600 customs.
http://www.accuracysystemsinc.com/
http://www.accuracysystemsinc.com/
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Linefinder
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Go ahead and tell me if I am wrong about this, I was told the only advantage to the boss system is if you shoot factory amo through you gun. This way you can tune your barrel to the factory amo you choose to shoot. BUT if you reload you don't need the boss system because you can then turn your load to what your barrel likes the most. Was I fed a Load of dung or was this guy telling me the right info? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
I reload and shoot factory ammo. IMO, the BOSS system is great for either one.
For example, if I select a bullet I want to use, and a powder charge that gets the velocity I want but the accuracy isn't there, I can tune the BOSS to deliver the accuracy. I then have the bullet, velocity, and accuracy I want from my reload.
Without the BOSS, it's possible that the particular bullet I want to shoot just won't be accurate at any velocity, or only within a small velocity range....which may be slower or faster than I want.
While it's true that you can "tweak" handloads, it's also possible that some particular bullets just will never be accurate, or obtain the desired velocity in your particular rifle. The BOSS system takes care of that problem with either factory ammo, or handloads.
Mike
Go ahead and tell me if I am wrong about this, I was told the only advantage to the boss system is if you shoot factory amo through you gun. This way you can tune your barrel to the factory amo you choose to shoot. BUT if you reload you don't need the boss system because you can then turn your load to what your barrel likes the most. Was I fed a Load of dung or was this guy telling me the right info? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
I reload and shoot factory ammo. IMO, the BOSS system is great for either one.
For example, if I select a bullet I want to use, and a powder charge that gets the velocity I want but the accuracy isn't there, I can tune the BOSS to deliver the accuracy. I then have the bullet, velocity, and accuracy I want from my reload.
Without the BOSS, it's possible that the particular bullet I want to shoot just won't be accurate at any velocity, or only within a small velocity range....which may be slower or faster than I want.
While it's true that you can "tweak" handloads, it's also possible that some particular bullets just will never be accurate, or obtain the desired velocity in your particular rifle. The BOSS system takes care of that problem with either factory ammo, or handloads.
Mike
hoginator204
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I have a Winchester model 70 stainless left hand in 270 win
with the boss system. The boss system does work just by adjusting the boss to a specific bullet weight or length
(Barens bullets require a higher setting). I don't find it any more accurate than a standard 270 especially a Savage.
The Boss system is heavy and you lose 2inches of barrel length to make up for the devise on the end of your barrel.
My advise would be to save your money put it towards a Savage rifle. You will be just as happy.
with the boss system. The boss system does work just by adjusting the boss to a specific bullet weight or length
(Barens bullets require a higher setting). I don't find it any more accurate than a standard 270 especially a Savage.
The Boss system is heavy and you lose 2inches of barrel length to make up for the devise on the end of your barrel.
My advise would be to save your money put it towards a Savage rifle. You will be just as happy.
Mike Pearson
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Buzz, how can getting extremely good accuracy with the bullet YOU choose be considered a "band-aid"? Sounds like a pretty good deal to me! Buzz, I remember when I growing up in the sixties (I'm 53 now) and reading the shooting magazines of the day and sure enough, there would be the occasional old-timer who would poo-poo the idea of scopes as unecessary "fancy gadgets", especially when use on rimfire rifles (just starting to become a popular thing to do during that time). Of course, the old-timers never needed any of that foolishness! Later on, decades later, I read the same kind of thing about range finders. Even I MYSELF got into a tizzy about the 152,000 camo pattersn we have now that we've GOT to have (and I'm a stickler for full camo too) in order to be successful in the field. My army camo seemed to do the job just fine as far as the critters were concerned.
I think the BOSS is innovative. As far as lowering the resale value of the gun? I could see where a rifle chambered for some obscure wildcat cartridge could do just that but something that increases accuracy? All the guy would have to do is USE the accuracy he's getting from his rifle as a selling point! If he's getting .5" or .75" (or whatever good accuracy he's getting), especially from a light sporter, he'd be foolish to not use that as a selling point! The buyer would at least have a starting presumption that this rifle is a performer and not a lemon (that he's hoping like heck to avoid)!
Anyways, those are my thoughts and one more thing, the guy who mentioned in the last post of the thread to get a Savage? THAT is an idea hard to beat or knock!
I think the BOSS is innovative. As far as lowering the resale value of the gun? I could see where a rifle chambered for some obscure wildcat cartridge could do just that but something that increases accuracy? All the guy would have to do is USE the accuracy he's getting from his rifle as a selling point! If he's getting .5" or .75" (or whatever good accuracy he's getting), especially from a light sporter, he'd be foolish to not use that as a selling point! The buyer would at least have a starting presumption that this rifle is a performer and not a lemon (that he's hoping like heck to avoid)!
Anyways, those are my thoughts and one more thing, the guy who mentioned in the last post of the thread to get a Savage? THAT is an idea hard to beat or knock!
BuzzBee
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Buzz, how can getting extremely good accuracy with the bullet YOU choose be considered a "band-aid"? Sounds like a pretty good deal to me! Buzz, I remember when I growing up in the sixties (I'm 53 now) and reading the shooting magazines of the day and sure enough, there would be the occasional old-timer who would poo-poo the idea of scopes as unecessary "fancy gadgets", especially when use on rimfire rifles (just starting to become a popular thing to do during that time). Of course, the old-timers never needed any of that foolishness! Later on, decades later, I read the same kind of thing about range finders. Even I MYSELF got into a tizzy about the 152,000 camo pattersn we have now that we've GOT to have (and I'm a stickler for full camo too) in order to be successful in the field. My army camo seemed to do the job just fine as far as the critters were concerned.
I think the BOSS is innovative. As far as lowering the resale value of the gun? I could see where a rifle chambered for some obscure wildcat cartridge could do just that but something that increases accuracy? All the guy would have to do is USE the accuracy he's getting from his rifle as a selling point! If he's getting .5" or .75" (or whatever good accuracy he's getting), especially from a light sporter, he'd be foolish to not use that as a selling point! The buyer would at least have a starting presumption that this rifle is a performer and not a lemon (that he's hoping like heck to avoid)!
Anyways, those are my thoughts and one more thing, the guy who mentioned in the last post of the thread to get a Savage? THAT is an idea hard to beat or knock!
Mr. Pearson
Apparently, you read about as good as I can write…… not so good knowing how.
I have BOSS on a Browning, I know it works and I‘m an advocate of the system. I support the idea of getting the BOSS but only if was original from the factory and I believe “any other” aftermarket devise which I referenced as them “Band-Aid” will depreciate the value of his gun, I never said they don't work.
If you just want to use this opportunity (I hope you are) to express your immense ability of adapting to the latest & greatest technology or to let us know how well are equipped, then, please have at it.
Buzz
Buzz, how can getting extremely good accuracy with the bullet YOU choose be considered a "band-aid"? Sounds like a pretty good deal to me! Buzz, I remember when I growing up in the sixties (I'm 53 now) and reading the shooting magazines of the day and sure enough, there would be the occasional old-timer who would poo-poo the idea of scopes as unecessary "fancy gadgets", especially when use on rimfire rifles (just starting to become a popular thing to do during that time). Of course, the old-timers never needed any of that foolishness! Later on, decades later, I read the same kind of thing about range finders. Even I MYSELF got into a tizzy about the 152,000 camo pattersn we have now that we've GOT to have (and I'm a stickler for full camo too) in order to be successful in the field. My army camo seemed to do the job just fine as far as the critters were concerned.
I think the BOSS is innovative. As far as lowering the resale value of the gun? I could see where a rifle chambered for some obscure wildcat cartridge could do just that but something that increases accuracy? All the guy would have to do is USE the accuracy he's getting from his rifle as a selling point! If he's getting .5" or .75" (or whatever good accuracy he's getting), especially from a light sporter, he'd be foolish to not use that as a selling point! The buyer would at least have a starting presumption that this rifle is a performer and not a lemon (that he's hoping like heck to avoid)!
Anyways, those are my thoughts and one more thing, the guy who mentioned in the last post of the thread to get a Savage? THAT is an idea hard to beat or knock!
Mr. Pearson
Apparently, you read about as good as I can write…… not so good knowing how.
I have BOSS on a Browning, I know it works and I‘m an advocate of the system. I support the idea of getting the BOSS but only if was original from the factory and I believe “any other” aftermarket devise which I referenced as them “Band-Aid” will depreciate the value of his gun, I never said they don't work.
If you just want to use this opportunity (I hope you are) to express your immense ability of adapting to the latest & greatest technology or to let us know how well are equipped, then, please have at it.
Buzz
Whats the problem now?
If it's poor groups then a Boss might tune out a problem today but if the real cause of the problem is poor bedding, a bad crown etc. then accuracy might suffer the next time you shoot and require more tuning.
I had a M70 With the Boss system. It shot the same with or without the Boss for the most part. For sure the Boss added a 1/4 pound of weight to an already heavy gun and made it 3" longer too. I had the CR part too as the muzzle brake Boss is dangerous to your ears.
I had to try it. Glad I sold it.
There is a rubber donut made by maybe Limbsaver that you can slip on your barrel. Maybe that will satisfy you til you fix the actual cause of your concern.
If it's poor groups then a Boss might tune out a problem today but if the real cause of the problem is poor bedding, a bad crown etc. then accuracy might suffer the next time you shoot and require more tuning.
I had a M70 With the Boss system. It shot the same with or without the Boss for the most part. For sure the Boss added a 1/4 pound of weight to an already heavy gun and made it 3" longer too. I had the CR part too as the muzzle brake Boss is dangerous to your ears.
I had to try it. Glad I sold it.
There is a rubber donut made by maybe Limbsaver that you can slip on your barrel. Maybe that will satisfy you til you fix the actual cause of your concern.
OldTurtle
Moderator - Deceased
As far as the "Limbsaver", I've worn the barrel of my Savage .204 shiny adjusting it and haven't noticed any difference from the factory accuracy built in with factory ammo...but I had to try it.. I think any improvement will come from my reloads, and maybe more practice.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Tactical .20
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I have a .223 varmit barrel, 22" barrel, from my Medallion Boss Varmit rifle. I found I got my load down to a half inch group @100yds. I have the closed Boss and the noisy one. My 25" Tactical .20 barrel was turned to the same thickness at the end of the barrel as the Browning one, it out shoots it, nearly every group. T.20
MidnightSniper
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Here you go.
Easy to install and is basicaaly the same thing.
www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1540&title=ADJUSTABLE+MUZZLE+BRAKE
Easy to install and is basicaaly the same thing.
www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1540&title=ADJUSTABLE+MUZZLE+BRAKE
BuzzBee
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I have a .223 varmit barrel, 22" barrel, from my Medallion Boss Varmit rifle. I found I got my load down to a half inch group @100yds. I have the closed Boss and the noisy one. My 25" Tactical .20 barrel was turned to the same thickness at the end of the barrel as the Browning one, it out shoots it, nearly every group. T.20
That's encuraging to know. I Just put on a solid BOSS on my Medallion after this elk season, have not shot it yet.
I've been wanting to do that since I bought the gun, my ears ring for weeks after each hunting trip, but she shot so well at the setting I just didn't want to mess with it....now I figure I better put one on before I go deft.
I have a .223 varmit barrel, 22" barrel, from my Medallion Boss Varmit rifle. I found I got my load down to a half inch group @100yds. I have the closed Boss and the noisy one. My 25" Tactical .20 barrel was turned to the same thickness at the end of the barrel as the Browning one, it out shoots it, nearly every group. T.20
That's encuraging to know. I Just put on a solid BOSS on my Medallion after this elk season, have not shot it yet.
I've been wanting to do that since I bought the gun, my ears ring for weeks after each hunting trip, but she shot so well at the setting I just didn't want to mess with it....now I figure I better put one on before I go deft.
