Help--Flying with Weapons

Nickj1980

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I'm heading to South Dakota on Thursday, flying with SkyWest and Delta Airlines--have any of you had experience with them and would you feel alright about checking a rifle and shotgun as baggage? I can borrow what I need when I get there, but, like most of you probably are, I'm partial to my own.

I've read the rules and everything I would like to take is do-able, I'm just worried about my baggage being lost or stolen, or even just arriving late. Can I use duct tape to "seal" the case, or will I just have to take it off for the case to be inspected?

I've had trouble with less expensive items on other airlines in the past so I'm hesitant /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif.

What do you all think? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
I fly with my guns and bow a lot. Do not duct tape the case shut, your are asking for more hassel than it's worth. The person at the ticket counter will have to open it to put a tag in there verifying that it is unloaded. Just make sure it's a sturdy case (SKB) and it can be locked and you shouldn't have any problems. 9 times out of 10 it won't come out with the rest of the luggage, instead it will be at the airline help office right next to the baggage claim..
 
I have flown with firearms before and not had a problem. Once you get to the check in counter you must declare your weapons, then an attendant will inspect them and ask you to fill out a declaration form. Once this happens you will lock your case with the declration form inside, and be on your way.
 
I fly with weapons all the time... Loaded even, 'course I am the pilot at the time so it's ok...

Good luck with your venture... hope everything gets to your destination ok and on time.
 
Is it going to be better to pack my ammo in the gun case or should I put it with everything else in my other checked baggage?
 
songdog,
Here's what the Delta website says:


One item of shooting equipment is accepted as your free checked baggage allowance.

When checking a firearm, you must:

Declare to the Delta representative that you are checking a firearm (If a Security Checkpoint is prior to the Delta ticket counter, you must declare the existence of a firearm to security personnel.)
Present firearm(s) unloaded and sign a "Firearms Unloaded" declaration
Lock the firearm(s) in a hard-sided, crush-proof container and retain the key or combination
Maintain entry permits in your possession for the country or countries of destination or transit
Ensure small arms ammunition is packed in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood or metal boxes
Firearms transported to the United Kingdom as checked baggage require a permit from the United Kingdom. The passenger must contact the United Kingdom for more information regarding this permit.

Ammunition in excess of 11 lbs. per passenger or that contains incendiary projectiles is prohibited.

Rifles
One rifle case containing:

two or fewer rifles (with or without scopes)
one shooting mat
one small pistol tool kit
noise suppressers
11 lbs. (approx. 5kgs) of ammunition
An excess baggage charge will apply to cases containing more than two rifles.

Shotguns
two shotguns
two shotgun cases
11 lbs. (approx. 5kgs) of ammunition
An excess baggage charge will apply to cases containing more than two shotguns.

Pistols
One pistol case containing:

five pistols
pistol telescopes
noise suppressers
a small pistol tool case
11 lbs. (approx. 5kgs) of ammunition
An excess baggage charge will apply to cases containing more than five pistols.



If you look under Rifles it says you may have up to 11 pounds of ammunition in the case with up to 2 rifles. Has this changed?

I've looked for a phone # but came up with some useless recordings and someone who handles lost baggage, but wasn't sure who I needed to talk to if the other number didn't help me.
 
The rules are changing everytime i fly. One rule is no blackpowder, see below, but you CAN load blackpowder in shotshells and remove the powder at you destination and use it. THat was last year so maybe not this year. I've had mostly good luck flying in and out of Lexington KY and Mpls MN. Last time I had several discussions, missing a flight, and then at the last minute had the jokers change their minds and condemn the case. SO it is kind of a crapshoot. IT helps if you aren't going in or out of the east coast-that goes without saying. Before 911 I had a .44 mag super redhawk taken out of a case by an agent and he played with it waiving it around. Course that was pre 911 and still had a good heart. HAh.

HEre's the latest from the TSA

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/editorial_1666.shtm



The key regulatory requirements to transporting firearms, firearm parts or ammunition in checked baggage are:

You must declare all firearms to the airline during the ticket counter check-in process.
The firearm must be unloaded.
The firearm must be in a hard-sided container.
The container must be locked.
We recommend that you provide the key or combination to the security officer if he or she needs to open the container. You should remain present during screening to take the key back after the container is cleared. If you are not present and the security officer must open the container, we or the airline will make a reasonable attempt to contact you. If we can’t contact you, the container will not be placed on the plane. Federal regulations prohibit unlocked gun cases (or cases with broken locks) on aircraft.
You must securely pack any ammunition in fiber (such as cardboard), wood or metal boxes or other packaging that is specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
You can’t use firearm magazines/clips for packing ammunition unless they completely and securely enclose the ammunition (e.g., by securely covering the exposed portions of the magazine or by securely placing the magazine in a pouch, holder, holster or lanyard).
You may carry the ammunition in the same hard-sided case as the firearm, as long as you pack it as described above.
You can’t bring black powder or percussion caps used with black-powder type firearms in either your carry-on or checked baggage.
We and other authorities strictly enforce these regulations. Violations can result in criminal prosecution and civil penalties of up to $10,000 per violation.

Airlines may have their own additional requirements on the carriage of firearms and the amount of ammunition that you may have in your checked baggage. Therefore, travelers should also contact the airline regarding its firearm and ammunition carriage policies.
 
three years ago said NO AMMO in the case with firearm. then two years ago MUST have ammo with firearm. I asked the head of the TSA crew isn't that handy putting ammo with a gun. He rolled his eyes and laughed, pointing out practicality (gun and ammo together being handy for deranged govt worker). He was so nice they took my daughtor and I back showing us the conveyors running luggage up down and around. The TSA guys in Lexington are really cool.

THE MPLS AIRPORTS DUMPS GUNS ONTO THE CARASEL WITH THE OTHER LUGGAGE SO GET READY TO BE STUNNED WHEN YOU SEE THAT ONE. The TSA doesn't manage that, I asked pretty pointedly.
 
As usual, you guys pulled through with the answers I needed. Thanks a bunch to everyone who chimed in.

I'll post pics when I get back.
 


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