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Ok doa.  Here is what I have done.  Started with 12" groups at 30 yards.  Now I'm shooting 3" groups at 30 yards.  Here is what I did.


Had center shot adjusted at archery stop at cabelas.  That helped a little. 


Tested other arrow splines, appeared that I had the right ones.


Had timing adjusted at a pro shop, timing was off, though when I bought it they said it would not need timed.


Marked both cams with a sharpie to monitor cam timing.


Discovered my string loop was over sized.  Had it replaced.


Bought a proper arrow spinner, spin tested my arrows and broadheads.  They all spin true.


Powder tested the rest, riser strings to check for fetching contact.  Was not an issue.


Checked cam lean.  Both cams leaned towards the riser.  Had top cam straightened.  Ended up over straightening, and went back.  Top cam is almost perfect, bottom cam appears to not be able to be straightened, but it is not bad enough to hop the string off.


Set up my own paper tuning range in my basement.  Before all of this it was tearing low left.  Now it Is high right.  I moved the rest left.  Started just tearing high.  Moved my string loop down, had no effect.  Moved some more down, no effect.  Put it back to original position.  Settling for half inch high tear is year.


On a good day I am getting 2" at 30 yards. 


Broadheads are grouping 6" at 30 yards.


I am going to stop fooling with it and get some mechanicals now.  I a running out of time.


Next year I am going to:


Replace my whisker bis quit with a drop away rest.


Move my peep sight up higher.  Someone told me today at the range I was putting my head awfully low to line up.


Try to find a Hoyt expert and see if they can get a little bit of valley into the bow.  It has zero valley.this is my least favorite part of e bow.


Might sell the bow and start over!


I shot 3d for the very first time today.  It was a great experience. I shot much better than I could have hoped.  I am ready to go outand kill a deer now.  I feel confident that with a good mechanical I will be lethal to 35 yards.


Varmint error  played a big part in this.  Thanks to him and Thanks everyone else.


Sorry of all e typos.  It's a pain typing on an iPad.


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