how to ask permission?

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ohihunter2014

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most my farms I gained permission because they are either hunt club land or a buddy got me in. I'm looking to gain more land to just coyote hunt and wondering how you guys go about it? its winter here and pretty cold so IMO bothering someone kinda sucks cause they will have to open the door in 30 degree weather. I was thinking hello my names ..... I was looking to gain some coyote hunting permission for myself and another guy.

how do you guys do it?
 
hi. my name is ohihunter. i live in _______.. i am looking for a few places where i can get permission to hunt coyotes. was wondering if you had some land that you would allow me to hunt?


short and sweet. it will be either yes or no. do not bore them and take up a bunch of their time.

 
Being a farmer and coyote hunter, if by chance you do get into a conversation with them... ACT CONFIDENT! Be polite ask if there are any areas that have problems with coyotes. Always make sure to add in there if you walk in or if you drive you will shut the gates. And it doesnt hurt to stop in a give them a thank you at the end of the season and tell them how many you got and how the land was and blah blah blah. It will give them a more positive mindset if you ask the next year.
 
Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnothi. my name is ohihunter. i live in _______.. i am looking for a few places where i can get permission to hunt coyotes. was wondering if you had some land that you would allow me to hunt?


short and sweet. it will be either yes or no. do not bore them and take up a bunch of their time.



+1 This is how i do about 90% of my "hunt for new farms" then if/when you start having success they will often have people for you to go to with a reference.
 
I took the direct advice of an outdoors columnist here in Minnesota, with one exception. I don't knock on people's doors. I like my privacy here in the city, and do not like to be bothered. So, to locate good areas of the state, I would buy supplies at the small local gun/tackle shops (not the big retail chains) and ask the guys where a new hunter should be looking. I would get good info, and was told to focus on older farms, not the suburbanites that just moved out here. Anyway, when I see someone outside working, I give em the wave, and when I get a response I drive in to talk. "I'm a new coyote Hunter and the magazine says there are farmers that may have a coyote problem. If I ask, they may allow me to hunt on their land. Would you allow me to hunt coyotes on your land? Here is my card. I do not use dogs. I sometimes will have a partner. Does it sound reasonable to let you get your crops in and finish deer hunting season, then I come back and you give me the tour? I will always call ahead of time, and will give you my vehicle plate number."

That worked for me, and I have treated very nicely by all. I got 5 spots this summer. After I get there and check it out, google earth shows me where the swamps and forests are, so I know which other neighbors I will ask next. The most common answer I received was, "I already have a group of guys that run dogs through this area at night." These guys were also friendly and tried to help by telling me where else I would strike out and where else I should check.

I will tell you what started this whole thing. My idea was roadside sweet corn stands. That corn came from a farm and the guys selling the corn know the whole county and exactly where to send me.

And like what was already suggested, saying thank you at every opportunity. Fine cigars and fresh pies at the end of the season.

Anyway, that was fun driving around, talking to farmers and seeing parts of my state that I hadn't seen before. NOW I'm ready for the really fun part: shooting my first coyote! The snow is here and the temps are dropping.
 
I also lend my hand to fix fence or help move cattle and when it's really good spot take a ham or turkey out after the season as the farmers really enjoy that..
 
One thing that opened doors for me that I never would have gotten was having "hunter insurance", You can get it though the NRA. It's for hunters and shooters and you are covered to the amount you want. You shoot something wrong like a farmers cow for what ever reason, the insurance pays the farmer for it. I'm not saying we shoot cows but accidents do happen.

One farmer told me people have asked him for 20 years and I was the only one that he allowed on his property because I was the first to be insured.

I also have a printed list of my personal info like make, model, color of truck as well as license plate, home address, work address, phone numbers and insurance info that I give to each land owner that allowed me to hunt his land.
 
I was looking to gain some coyote hunting permission for myself and another guy.

I would leave "and another guy" out of the question. If you get permission for just you, after the land owner knows he can trust you and you know the land owner better then maybe you could get the permission for the other guy.

I think the odds of you gaining permission will be much better if you ask for just yourself to start with.

I have two properties I have been hunting for years and my son is the only person I can take on those properties. I don't even ask if anyone can go along with me.

I know four land owners that let me take another guy with me but it is just the one guy so they know who it is.

Two land owners I know don't really care who I take with me, but I have always asked for just one person to go along.

I have always contacted the land owners by calling them and asking if I can go on their property to hunt coyotes before I go too. I think it is best to ask every time instead of assuming that it is fine to just go out to their place without them knowing about it.

It may also help if you offer to help them out with fence work, cattle work or anything they need help with.
 
I never knew it was that complicated...Then again, I know folks, or at least know folks who know the folks I am asking. Once you get a couple of spots, and hunt them like an adult, word gets around. I am at the point now that I have people calling me to come kill coyotes, instead of the other way around.
 
This is a great topic. Things are different all over. I'm not sure it is that difficult. In fact, one of the farmers said, don't call, just come out whenever you want, park where you want, and have at it. The good spots are over there and there. Another says, you can camp out there if you want, shoot em all, you can hunt anything except deer out there, and I'll heat up the cabin for you if you don't want to drive back to the city every night. That's being treated like a king to a city boy that lives on a bus route! Living in the country looks better and better all the time.
 
Originally Posted By: Up169north Living in the country looks better and better all the time.

Shhhhh! Those of us in the country are trying to keep that a secret!
 
And when you do end up getting access, be grateful. Sometimes the smallest gestures can make the biggest impressions. I have friends that ask me to come take care of the coyotes, yet I still bring a case of their favorite beverages from time to time.
 
Nobody complains about coyotes more than deer hunters. Make up some business cards and drop them off at the deer processors in your area.
 
I wanted to ask for my brother or a buddy so they could spot light for me as I don't have a gun mounted light. I have about 4-5 farms I deer hunt and small game hunt and never take anyone with me or ask. I tell them you want permission you go ask. I figured just telling them I need someone to spot light for me would be okay.
 
I started hunting Coyotes in 2006, I have Plat Map books for 6 different counties. I also have Plat maps for Colorado and Nebraska on my GPS. I usually know their name before I even knock on the door or pull into the ranch. Very important!!

Best advice I can give - Knock on the door, if they are not home? Come back later. They DON'T do business cards! Spend some time with them and get to know them and their family if possible, they are always up for conversation. Give them a business card AFTER you have obtained permission.
No ranchers have called me back when I have left a card or left a VM on their phone.

Out of the many YES's I have gotten I have a few NO's!

I keep all the Private ranches I hunt on an Excel spreadsheet which includes their name, cell and home number, township and the page I can find their property in my Plat Map books.

Example : 1st one I have listed is on KC13,14,19,20
Which is Kimball County Nebraska and the property is clearly marked on pages 13,14,19 and 20.

I have 40 private ranches in Nebraska and they all know me by name.

Colorado - 129 private ranches and they too all know me by name.
Some ranches have small children, my girlfriend and I will grab them some smaller gifts such as toys or puzzles for Christmas. A small gift goes a long ways.

I will pick up another ranch in Colorado on January 1st 2017.
This ranch is about 6 sections (3,000 acres) that are completely land locked and not predator hunted to the best of my knowledge.

I am pretty confident that the guy charges big bucks for deer hunters, I made it perfectly clear I do not pay anybody to hunt Coyotes!!

His son told me that even he is not allowed to hunt Coyotes, the owner wants me to take him and his son in the new year of 2017.
This land is rolling hills with a good amount of vegetation and it reminds me of the Eastern Colorado sand hills.

I do however give some ranchers wine and booze, I tell all of them I cannot and will not hand out cash, but, I will hand out whiskey and wine at times.

Hunting is hard work, finding good property and obtaining permission - Even harder!!
 


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