how will stock change affect accuracy?

mnbowhunter

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I have a weather vanguard in 270wsm that shoots 5 shots in under 1 moa with the factory stock. If I put a bell and carlson medalist on it will it tighten the groups up or will I have to rework my load? I know I could just leave it since its shooting great but........
 
Just shoot to verify. If the stock is properly bedded and torqued, then the groups should be more consistent, IME. And the Ergonomics make the rifle more enjoyable and comfortable to shoot, which also helps with groups.
 
You may have to rework your load some as the harmonics will change a bit, but over all accuracy should improve. The feel of the rifle should improve also and this helps as well with accuracy.
 
I put an Alaskan II Aluminum Block stock on My Rem SPS I saw NO where near the $200 investment in accuracy gains. However if you like a different stock give it a try. If you are under 1MOA already, I wouldnt expect a major difference just by changing stocks. My POI has changed on the ones I have done but none really changed that much. As mentioned, test it before a hunting trip. Good luck.
 
Originally Posted By: mnbowhunterI have a weather vanguard in 270wsm that shoots 5 shots in under 1 moa with the factory stock. If I put a bell and carlson medalist on it will it tighten the groups up or will I have to rework my load? I know I could just leave it since its shooting great but........

I would leave that rifle the way it is and spend my money on something else.
 
"If you are under 1MOA already, I wouldnt expect a major difference just by changing stocks."

I wouldn't exactly bet on that...if the new stock doesn't fit the action tightly it could change more and for the worst. Stocks have to fit the action tightly or the rifle will not shoot accurately. As the second poster {PA machinegun guy} said, there are really two factors with a stock change to consider. First and most important does it fit the action tightly as in perfect glass bedded?? Second, does it fit the shooter and have a good hold or feel?? We have all seen a new stock fit good enough to shoot O.K. wihtout the glass bedding but without the glass it's downhill from there especially if you have a wooden stock.
 
Thanks for the info guys. I found a used stock for a decent price but am on the fence with getting it or not. I dont wanna ruin a good thing or spend money on something thats not gonna help. So maybe ill have to ask a few more ???'s about it incase hes getting rid of it because it wasnt tight to the action.
 
A stock needs to be bedded to the action. No factory stocks will fit like one that is bedded. No aftermarket stock will, either, until they're bedded.

I buy stock more for shooter comfort, vs shrinking groups. Any rifle I have a new stock on had shot well before. But the new stock certainly make it more consistent, group to group.
 
Originally Posted By: pahntr760A stock needs to be bedded to the action. No factory stocks will fit like one that is bedded. No aftermarket stock will, either, until they're bedded.

I buy stock more for shooter comfort, vs shrinking groups. Any rifle I have a new stock on had shot well before. But the new stock certainly make it more consistent, group to group.

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A proper stress free bedding job will help "wring out" the most consistent accuracy from your weapon.
 
Originally Posted By: pahntr760Originally Posted By: msinc{PA machinegun guy}


LOL. Thanks for that. I seriously laughed out loud.

Yep, the 760 is my favorite rifle. Nothing else made has lines like that, except the newer versions. It was also the first really high grade rifle I ever saw as a kid in high school. The Remington catalog from 75 or 76 had pictures of one on the custom shop page. I cant remember if it was a "Peerless" or "Premier" or even which of the two is the highest, but the rifle had the prettiest wood and gold inlays. I didnt even know guns were made like that. And at the unheard of price of something like $3000 for the one and $5000 for the other!!!! One of them came up for sale about a year or so ago at the Cabela's in Hamburg, Pa. The price was $10,000. I ordered a model SIX semi inlet in AAA fancy wood for a custom I am working on. It will be a 260 with a 24" barrel. Just got the barrel the other day. Will post pix when I get her done.
 
In my book, the biggest benefit of the upgraded stocks is consistency. Most factory injection molded stocks are so flimsy that rifles have to be held exactly the same way by your shooting rest or sticks or whatever to give truly repeatable results, which is difficult in the field. I have a Model 70 in a B&C stock that I feel will shoot to the same POI whether I'm shooting from sandbags, my bogpod, or rested against a tree, just because of the rigidity and stiffness of that stock.
 
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