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Thanks again for all of the help. I howled for the first time this weekend with success. I have to admit that I was a bit bashful about it at first. After blowing prey type calls for so long that howler sounds obscene. I gave a bark, long fairly high pitched howl followed my two barks. A young male showed himself about a minute and a half later(no response on his part). It was sure a good confidence builder. Thanks again