Even sitting on a pad I'll make it about 10 minutes on a stand and by the end of the day I'm toast!! About 10 years ago I went to a stadium seat with back support and I'd make it about 20 minutes a stand with the same end of day results...toast. This year I found a folding chair made by ALPS and it's perfect. In fact earlier this year I sat on a deer stand for almost 4 hours and only got up a couple of times just to stretch my legs, no back pain, no legs or feet fallin asleep. Very sturdy, rated at 300 lbs, plenty to carry my 260 lb fat a$$. Light weight, cost about $40 buck and available in camo.