Hunting coyotes with dogs and truck???

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Is it legal in Illinois to let dogs go thru a property and guys in trucks sit on the roads with radios and wait. I hunt coyote on my property by trying to call them. Today when I was leaving a guy in a truck with a radio antenna stuck on top of his truck was sitting on the road along my property. I know he knew his dogs were working on my property and that is my question? Can they legally do that? He is not on my property but his dogs are hunting it for him?

Mark
 
Legal or not that would aggrevate me. I might be just an azz but I would stop it on my property either way. I would call a Conservation Officer and find out.
 
dogs can't read no trespassing signs! I don't like it either but there isn't much we can do.
 
You should have talked to him and told him you wanted to go.

Deer hunting has ruined hunting anything with hounds here, but when we used to have running dogs it was always a blast
 
It is not legal to shoot a gun from a road or from a vehicle. Having said that it happens around here all the time. Except they just drive through the feilds and chase the coyotes down and shoot them. Alot of sport in that huh? I take cover when I see them coming. I can just see them chase up something and have it run in my direction.
 
Alot of sport in that huh?


if we cannot support one another the anti hunting groups will win.

i'm am against trespassing call the game warden I believe he will tell you they can recover their dogs but cannot hunt or shoot at game with out permission from land owner.

Orson
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If chasing coyotes around with your dogs is what you enjoy, thats great! It's just frustrating to see someones dog chasing coyotes out of YOUR property that you enjoy calling in!
 
I've got a few gangs that hunts them that away here in Indiana too! They come around with 4 trucks with dog boxes, about 6 or 7 hounds and 8 guys. Find a track or see a coyote, feed a pair of dogs in and hopscotch the mile grid roads here. When the dogs get tried they feed in another pair of hounds in and pick up the first 2 at the next road over. Chase the coyotes for miles and try to get out ahead of the dogs and shoot the coyotes at the crossings or walk into the woods where the dogs finally catch and corner the coyote. They usually do this early in the week in the morning when everybody's at work. No respect for landowners or for the coyotes in my opinion. They are in the opinion that no one cares they are just coyotes, plus part of their game is get in get out before anyone knows. When I ran Bird Dogs, I took every step the dogs took, and kept them off private property!

These tactics really burn my behide. One Monday morning I shod a few horses and got home around 9:30 and was going to grab my calls and rifle and try to call one up, only to find these guys parked by my ditch(property line) loading their dogs up. They had 6 coyotes laying ontop of the dog boxes. They had blasted through my land not once but twice. ARG!
 
Originally Posted By: LuckyBI've got a few gangs that hunts them that away here in Indiana too! They come around with 4 trucks with dog boxes, about 6 or 7 hounds and 8 guys. Find a track or see a coyote, feed a pair of dogs in and hopscotch the mile grid roads here. When the dogs get tried they feed in another pair of hounds in and pick up the first 2 at the next road over. Chase the coyotes for miles and try to get out ahead of the dogs and shoot the coyotes at the crossings or walk into the woods where the dogs finally catch and corner the coyote. They usually do this early in the week in the morning when everybody's at work. No respect for landowners or for the coyotes in my opinion. They are in the opinion that no one cares they are just coyotes, plus part of their game is get in get out before anyone knows. When I ran Bird Dogs, I took every step the dogs took, and kept them off private property!

These tactics really burn my behide. One Monday morning I shod a few horses and got home around 9:30 and was going to grab my calls and rifle and try to call one up, only to find these guys parked by my ditch(property line) loading their dogs up. They had 6 coyotes laying ontop of the dog boxes. They had blasted through my land not once but twice. ARG!


First of all, their is no excuse for trespassing, and second of all, hunting any kind of game with hounds is no less "respectful" to the game than any other method.

Hounds are not bird dogs, and you cannot take every step that a good coon or coyote hound takes. They are completely different kinds of hunting, and comparing them is like comparing the Colts to the US womens volleyball team.

Dont worry, you will get you way before long and hound hunting will be a thing of the past.
 
the best way to discourage them from hunting your property is to make up signs and put them in plane sight . put COYOTE SNARES BEING USED HERE.
it worked for me on some of the properties i hunt . i have also stopped and told the dog runners that i have a lot of snares right where there dogs are trespassing and i hope the dogs can tell what they look like . they really scramble to get there dogs back out of there .
icebox
 
It is illegal I am pretty sure. Write down the LP's and call the game warden up. I would say warn him, but then you might just get shot. His dogs are an extension of him by law. Who gets sued if your dog bites someone? You do, not your dog. If he claims he didn't know, the law explains that ignorance of the laws are no excuse. He will be prosecuted the same as if he knew full and well. If you think he is just a dummy, and wanna give the guy a chance, warn him and I bet he doesn't do it again. If he gives you attitude, be civil and go straight to the game warden.
 
I have not ran hounds since moving from michigan to minnesota but if I remember correctly in michigan you could not cast your dogs on private property with out permission but you could retrieve your dogs from private property but no hunting or shooting game.

now when I went to missouri and picked up some hounds from paul gregg if I understood him you cant even retrieve your dogs if the land owner asked you to leave you had to call the authorities to be able to remove your hounds.

call the dnr/police and fill a complaint or better yet tell the hunters you do not want them hunting on your property and post it accordingly.

Orson
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i don't condone treaspassing in any shape or form but if they have permission to each his own. some hound hunters might wonder what the sport of shooting a coyote at 300 yds with a tack driving rifle.... if you were good at calling why not shoot it with a shotgun at 30 yds?
 
Sorry I won't support illegal activities.

first off running hounds in not illegal trespassing is.

I have yet to meet a houndsman that does not respect landowners rights.

I'll bet you get better results if you call the authorities and or ask them to stay of your property. assuming you own this property if not has the owner giving them permission to hunt there.

it sounds like you have some slob hunters in your area and they will keep coming back until they are told to stay off private property.

Orson
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The Illinois Hunting & Trapping Regulations states that "coyote hunters are required to keep their guns unloaded and in a case while in a vehicle or on a conveyance" (which includes atv's & horseback). "Guns must remain unloaded until hunter is clear of the road as well as the right of way alongside the road."

"Even though a coyote hunter can't be charged if his dogs get away from him and go onto property without the landowner's permission, the coyote hunter DOES NOT have the legal right to follow the dogs onto the property without landowner permission."

These guys have screwed up several of my hunts this season!!!http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/images/icons/default/cursing.gif
 
Originally Posted By: Tanker

First of all, their is no excuse for trespassing, and second of all, hunting any kind of game with hounds is no less "respectful" to the game than any other method.

Hounds are not bird dogs, and you cannot take every step that a good coon or coyote hound takes. They are completely different kinds of hunting, and comparing them is like comparing the Colts to the US womens volleyball team.

Dont worry, you will get you way before long and hound hunting will be a thing of the past.

Tanker, you are right. I understand that they are diferent type of hunting. To each is own. I'm not trying to get any type of hunting banned. I enjoy chasing after hounds, and hearing the bays of a Walker or Beagle, it's as good as a Setter's bell in the brush. Nothing beats a dog in pursuit of his natural born and trained talent. I didn't mean that the pursuit of coyotes with dogs is disresepctfully. When these hunters do this and have the dead coyotes stacked on their trucks it remines me of the new thinking, "Don't turn Non-Hunters into Anti-Hunters." I know landowners who are turned off by this and in turn won't let any type of hunting on their land.

I'm reminded of the WWII quote of Niemoller something like, "When the Nazis attacked the Communists, I was a little uneasy, but, after all, I was not a Communist, and so I did nothing; and then they attacked the Socialists, and I was a little uneasier, but, still, I was not a Socialist, and I did nothing; and then the schools, the press, the Jews, and so on, and I was always uneasier, but still I did nothing. And then they attacked the Church, and I was a Churchman, and I did something--but then it was too late."

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not against any type of hunting, just let us all get along or we all will end up paying for it in the end when the Anti's get their way and all Hunting will be a thing of the past.
 
As a hound hunter (coonhounds), it can be frustrating. Many times I am told that I have casted my dogs onto private property that I don't have permission to hunt. The reality is my dogs can cover many miles after an old coon and when they end up on land that is posted, you either have to wait on the property edge, or call local law enforcement to allow you to retrieve your dogs. Thos that run fox and coyote hounds around here face the same problem. They will have permission to run 3-4k acres and then they get in an area they can't go on. It seems like the hounds prefer baying up something on these lots. While I won't caste on land I don't have permission to hunt, I love to hunt. Hunting land is harder and harder to come by. I have nutured relationships that my grandfather had to keep land open to me. My last dog was shot on private land for "making too much noise." There was no livestock on this property. The dog swam a river after a coon and treed up beside the house. I had to wait 2 hours for the deputy to get there. The dog lived half way to the vets. The land owner laughed about it while we were loading up the dog. As stated above, we, hunters and sportsmen, need to support each other. Most hound hunters prefer to retrieve their dogs if they can, but also don't want to create trespassing issues. I suggest talking with the guys the next time you see them. If it is your land, let them know that it is posted, and give them your number so when their dogs are on your land, they can retrieve them. Otherwise in IL you are going to see them waiting on the edge of your land, hoping their dogs are good, and hoping one is not lost. JMHO
 
the last post sounds like your looking for trouble... your dogs can cover many miles and your hunting 3 or 4 acre plots?i can see how things go bad,where i live things are not quite that congested, i wouldn't consider dropping hounds on any thing less than a quarter section.
 
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