I need some grey fox info, please.......

boogercounty

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...I have two or three grey foxes coming into the back side of my yard, where we dump the garbage. We live in a rural area. These foxes have been coming out into the open for about 2 weeks, now, and all hours of the day and night.

Two of them are definitely nursing females, and I think I have seen a male at different times. This morning, my wife saw 3 foxes at one time, all adults. One stayed back from the other two, after it got snapped at by one that was feeding. The females are distinguishable by the bare spots around the nipples. The one that I am calling a male has a smooth hairline on his belly, and the front of his front legs are almost black, with his(?) overall coloration being darker. They are feeding no more than 20 yards from my bedroom window, and I have been observing them, and video-taping them for the last couple of days.

Yesterday morning, I was taping as one was feeding on scraps, and saw it alert, then run. In a moment, here came a housecat from around the corner of the house, headed toward where the fox had been. I tried to scare the cat away by pecking on the glass, but no luck. Well, since the fox was gone, I decided to turn off the camera, and get ready to go to work. I shut off the camera, and just as I set it down, my wife yelled from the other room, "Did you see that"? She then told me that as the cat got close to where the fox was in the brush, the fox took in after the cat, and put it back into the yard, as fast as it could run!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Sure wish I had caught that on video.

How many kits will a grey fox produce, per litter?? When will the young venture out from the den?? Is there any chance they will come to feed with Momma??

There is an old abandoned sawmill yard, about 150 yards behind my property line, and I think this is where the foxes are denning. There are still a few old piles of rotting lumber, there, and most of the place is grown up in briars and brush.

They are interesting to watch while they are feeding. This evening, I put out some spoiled meat, ran a wire through some of the chunks, and tied the wire to a tree. I had the camera ready, and got some footage of one of them having to work for it's supper. Needless to say, it made short work of the meat on the wire.

Grey foxes seem to be in short supply, around here. We seldom call one in, and the houndsmen say that they seldom run a fox.

If this "hatch" is a good one, there may be a few more in this area, soon. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
Everything that you're asking is on the MDC website along with maps. I have population surveys from Missouri's head furbearer biologist that shows fox populations to be "maybe" showing a slight decline. Bobcat populations seem to be on the rise and coyotes are everywhere and climbing.

And that's most likely the problem for foxes, the coyotes. The larger more aggresive coyotes will not tolerate the smaller canines and kill them when they can. I do think the gray's fare better than the reds do with coyotes. The gray is smaller, quicker, lives in thicker and tighter country, dens in smaller places, climbs if necessary, and I feel it escapes and evades coyotes better than red foxes. I seldom see a red fox in my neck of the Ozarks, but call several grays each year. The grays here don't come to the call with the aggresiveness that I hear others talk about. They come in nervous and skittish and don't stay long, they spook very easily. MY theory is that they know that they're living in dangerous country and that the larger coyote will most likely come on scene soon. They want to step in, see if they can grab a quick bite, and get the heck out of Dodge.
 
I've seen as many as 5 grays running together on a nearby ranch, at night, in September some years ago (common to have YOY run together from now until winter.) 4 + mom is the largest litter I've personally encountered. They were denning in a brushy old woodpile behind a barn, which I found out by talking to the ranch manager. Came back in the evening and squeaked them out their den, one freaked at the flash and scooted up a live oak, rattled around in the crown for a bit before bouncing back out. (Haven't treed a fox before or since.)

Incidentally, you can probably just lipsqueak them as close as you care to for photography... Just last night I roused a ropey youngster and coaxed it to about a dozen feet away, not quite 20 paces out my door (no camo, no cover.). They're apparently used to you if they're living on your lower 40, unlikely you'd alarm them with your scent.

I recently passed on the offer of an 8 week old (semi-feral housecat) kitten for rodent control, because I can't suffer training it to use a litterbox, and because an indoor/outdoor cat that age would swiftly become fox food. (This I know because I once brought a meowy Abyssinian up to my place to cat sit for a girlfriend. After letting "Osiris" out on the 3rd floor deck to cry the blues for a awhile, I looked over the edge to discover a very alert gray fox sitting on his haunches directly underneath... very intent and expectant look about him.)

If you value puss, keep it indoors til they disperse, would be my suggestion.

LionHo
 


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