I want A FAST 22
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reddog964
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Actually turning necks is pretty simple and it don't take long to turn them, It's the prep work to get them to where they need to be to turn is the PITA!! But IMO it is well worth the time and effort for a custom built rifle, now for a factory tube i know i wouldn't waste my time...
As far as fire forming goes if you start with quality brass (LAPUA) and your smith knows how to set head space for the AIs you will not have wasted your time or money...
As far as fire forming goes if you start with quality brass (LAPUA) and your smith knows how to set head space for the AIs you will not have wasted your time or money...
tnshootist
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If somebody needs 22-243 redding dies I have a set I don't need anymore. Great fun round. I'm just over it and don't need the dies.
Breatheandsqueeze
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Okay I'm going to chime in,,,,,,,,22-243AI running 75 grain A-max is a beast! Dang thing just kills the crud out of stuff you cannot go wrong with it.
My new toy is a .20-250 AI running 55 grain Bergers @3850 and it is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!! When you run the ballistics on it you will scratch your head and wonder why you don't have one.
To date I have killed 7 coyotes with it and all of them were DRT from 60 yards to 321. It has a silencer in lockup waiting on paperwork so it will be even sweeter.
Breathe
My new toy is a .20-250 AI running 55 grain Bergers @3850 and it is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!! When you run the ballistics on it you will scratch your head and wonder why you don't have one.
To date I have killed 7 coyotes with it and all of them were DRT from 60 yards to 321. It has a silencer in lockup waiting on paperwork so it will be even sweeter.
Breathe
xphunter
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Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: xphunterTurning necks is overrated if you have to do a lot of it, especially by hand!
Ernie, I wouldn't mind the labor at all-if I new the results were worth the time and effort.
I've pointed over 1000 bullets in the last couple of days and the jury's still out on that one.
Oh, it's worth it. I have have had and still have many tight neck chambers. Just time consuming...
Ernie, I wouldn't mind the labor at all-if I new the results were worth the time and effort.
I've pointed over 1000 bullets in the last couple of days and the jury's still out on that one.
Oh, it's worth it. I have have had and still have many tight neck chambers. Just time consuming...
Originally Posted By: xphunterOriginally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: xphunterTurning necks is overrated if you have to do a lot of it, especially by hand!
Ernie, I wouldn't mind the labor at all-if I new the results were worth the time and effort.
I've pointed over 1000 bullets in the last couple of days and the jury's still out on that one.
Oh, it's worth it. I have have had and still have many tight neck chambers. Just time consuming...
Time spent on a couple hundred pieces of brass is really inconsequential to the results enjoyed for the life of a barrel.
Thanks!
Ernie, I wouldn't mind the labor at all-if I new the results were worth the time and effort.
I've pointed over 1000 bullets in the last couple of days and the jury's still out on that one.
Oh, it's worth it. I have have had and still have many tight neck chambers. Just time consuming...
Time spent on a couple hundred pieces of brass is really inconsequential to the results enjoyed for the life of a barrel.
Thanks!
Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: CZ527Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: CZ527
I have often experienced the need for a little extra effort both opening and closing the bolt.
And I forgot to mention maybe you started out with boogered brass and then didn't know how to properly set up a sizing die.
That's just a guess based on the information you provided.
Tough to resize factory ammo while it's loaded, could you give me some tips on how to keep the pin from pushing the bullet down?
I'd be happy to return the favor by telling you how to stick something somewhere if you like- just for the sake of being fair.
Well, well, well-it looks as though you were actually trying to make quality AI brass from factory ammo.
Now, would you like me to answer your question about making AI brass from factory ammo first, or would you like for me to reply to your insult?
I promise you I can do either with equal enthusiasm.
Are you gonna tell me more about the "pin pushing the bullet down", or whatever in the heck that means(???), or are you gonna be "fair" and follow up on your insult?
Still haven't heard from you.
Remember what Hannibal told Clarice:
Tick-tock..........
I have often experienced the need for a little extra effort both opening and closing the bolt.
And I forgot to mention maybe you started out with boogered brass and then didn't know how to properly set up a sizing die.
That's just a guess based on the information you provided.
Tough to resize factory ammo while it's loaded, could you give me some tips on how to keep the pin from pushing the bullet down?
I'd be happy to return the favor by telling you how to stick something somewhere if you like- just for the sake of being fair.
Well, well, well-it looks as though you were actually trying to make quality AI brass from factory ammo.
Now, would you like me to answer your question about making AI brass from factory ammo first, or would you like for me to reply to your insult?
I promise you I can do either with equal enthusiasm.
Are you gonna tell me more about the "pin pushing the bullet down", or whatever in the heck that means(???), or are you gonna be "fair" and follow up on your insult?
Still haven't heard from you.
Remember what Hannibal told Clarice:
Tick-tock..........
Buster Hindend
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Originally Posted By: fw707
Still haven't heard from you.
Remember what Hannibal told Clarice:
Tick-tock..........
I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti??????
Still haven't heard from you.
Remember what Hannibal told Clarice:
Tick-tock..........
I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti??????
Rich1
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I just put together a 22-6mm w/29" barrel and one load flings the 75 AMAX @ 3640 and the other is a little faster @ 3840, but that one will be a little hard on case. Very accurate and flat shooting. Only shot at 2 coyotes with it, the first laughed at me, but the second screamed bloody murder before it tipped over.
Originally Posted By: Rich1I just put together a 22-6mm w/29" barrel and one load flings the 75 AMAX @ 3640 and the other is a little faster @ 3840, but that one will be a little hard on case. Very accurate and flat shooting. Only shot at 2 coyotes with it, the first laughed at me, but the second screamed bloody murder before it tipped over.
I have a 6mmAI with a 29" barrel and was thinking about a 22-6AI or 22-284 I have a decent stash of 6mm brass and 6.5-284 Just haven't made up my mind yet, I would be interested in any of your load data if you don't mind
I have a 6mmAI with a 29" barrel and was thinking about a 22-6AI or 22-284 I have a decent stash of 6mm brass and 6.5-284 Just haven't made up my mind yet, I would be interested in any of your load data if you don't mind
Smokin250
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Ive been wanting to do a 22-250AI with a 7.7" bartlien for quite some time. I actually have a host coming up in my stable. I just cant convince myself to do it yet. To be honest the main thing holding me back is knowing I will run it as hard as I can (WHY NOT), and ill burn the barrel up in no time. By dang, 75AMAXS at 3400ish....just puts a smile on my face.
What are the speed gains for a 22-250 to a 22-243? Its seeming like 200-400FPS?
What are the speed gains for a 22-250 to a 22-243? Its seeming like 200-400FPS?
venatic
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To try some Lapua brass in my 22 Creedmoor I just loaded a few 22-250 new Lapua's with a slightly lower charge and shot them... worked fine for the 50 I have shot so far. I would describe it as a 22-250 that is Ackley/Ackleyed as you are blowing the shoulders AND the case body out slightly.
My FF load only ran 3300 with 75gr but was very accurate.
So you could in a pinch just use factory 22-250 ammo.... would that also work in the 22X47mm??If so it would save you from neck turning.
My FF load only ran 3300 with 75gr but was very accurate.
So you could in a pinch just use factory 22-250 ammo.... would that also work in the 22X47mm??If so it would save you from neck turning.
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tnshootist
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Originally Posted By: Smokin250Ive been wanting to do a 22-250AI with a 7.7" bartlien for quite some time. I actually have a host coming up in my stable. I just cant convince myself to do it yet. To be honest the main thing holding me back is knowing I will run it as hard as I can (WHY NOT), and ill burn the barrel up in no time. By dang, 75AMAXS at 3400ish....just puts a smile on my face.
What are the speed gains for a 22-250 to a 22-243? Its seeming like 200-400FPS?
I got 3540 out of 22-243 with 80 gr AMAX 7 twist 24 inch barrel. Accuracy was good. That was about tops for that rifle.
What are the speed gains for a 22-250 to a 22-243? Its seeming like 200-400FPS?
I got 3540 out of 22-243 with 80 gr AMAX 7 twist 24 inch barrel. Accuracy was good. That was about tops for that rifle.
Smokin250
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Originally Posted By: venaticTo try some Lapua brass in my 22 Creedmoor I just loaded a few 22-250 new Lapua's with a slightly lower charge and shot them... worked fine for the 50 I have shot so far. I would describe it as a 22-250 that is Ackley/Ackleyed as you are blowing the shoulders AND the case body out slightly.
My FF load only ran 3300 with 75gr but was very accurate.
So you could in a pinch just use factory 22-250 ammo.... would that also work in the 22X47mm??If so it would save you from neck turning.
How do these feed? That was the other question I had in regards to the speedy 22s. I would think the 22-250AI wouldn't feed particularly well. But I have not personally ran one.
Also, is there anyone that can speak in regards to barrel life?
My FF load only ran 3300 with 75gr but was very accurate.
So you could in a pinch just use factory 22-250 ammo.... would that also work in the 22X47mm??If so it would save you from neck turning.
How do these feed? That was the other question I had in regards to the speedy 22s. I would think the 22-250AI wouldn't feed particularly well. But I have not personally ran one.
Also, is there anyone that can speak in regards to barrel life?
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Breatheandsqueeze
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I don't know why a .22-250 AI would not feed well? Mine is a
.20-250 AI shooting 55 grain Bergers and they are setting way out there. I have had absolutely no feeding issues whatsoever. Barrel life I cant tell you yet but I expect to get at least a 1000 rounds out of it. If it gets shot out then I will grab another and keep shooting!
.20-250 AI shooting 55 grain Bergers and they are setting way out there. I have had absolutely no feeding issues whatsoever. Barrel life I cant tell you yet but I expect to get at least a 1000 rounds out of it. If it gets shot out then I will grab another and keep shooting!
OK243
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Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: reddog964Originally Posted By: fw707
I bet if Lapua ever started making the 6x47L brass it would neck down to a whipper snapper of a fast .22 round.
Heck they make it already just one pass thru the sizer die and Wallah...
Can you do a no-turn .22 neck straight from the 6.5 case?
The most I've ever necked down at one time was the 6.5 to the 6x47, and that's a no-turn deal.
Yes, the 22x47 that I'm having done will be with a no-turn reamer. I don't know all the numbers on the reamer but I will not have to turn necks on the 6.5x47 brass.
I bet if Lapua ever started making the 6x47L brass it would neck down to a whipper snapper of a fast .22 round.
Heck they make it already just one pass thru the sizer die and Wallah...
Can you do a no-turn .22 neck straight from the 6.5 case?
The most I've ever necked down at one time was the 6.5 to the 6x47, and that's a no-turn deal.
Yes, the 22x47 that I'm having done will be with a no-turn reamer. I don't know all the numbers on the reamer but I will not have to turn necks on the 6.5x47 brass.
Originally Posted By: Smokin250
How do these feed? That was the other question I had in regards to the speedy 22s. I would think the 22-250AI wouldn't feed particularly well. But I have not personally ran one.
Also, is there anyone that can speak in regards to barrel life?
I have a 22-250AI 8 twist with a HS DBM that feeds just about as fast as I can run it with the 75 Amax seated out to touch the lands, it has just about 300 rounds down the tube and the throat still looks good
How do these feed? That was the other question I had in regards to the speedy 22s. I would think the 22-250AI wouldn't feed particularly well. But I have not personally ran one.
Also, is there anyone that can speak in regards to barrel life?
I have a 22-250AI 8 twist with a HS DBM that feeds just about as fast as I can run it with the 75 Amax seated out to touch the lands, it has just about 300 rounds down the tube and the throat still looks good