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I have 3 with Ill. Dot reticles and love them all. The nicest is the Alpen optics Apex XP 1.5x6x42 Ill. Dot. Next is the Elite 4200 1.25x4x24mm Ill. Dot and then a Bushnell Trophy 1.5x6x40mm Ill. Dot. The Tropy glass isn't the best but useable out to as fare as I can shoot.