kimber 84m Longmaster

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thehawkeyestate1

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Hey guys,

I'm in the market for a new rifle. Been looking hard at the Kimber 84m line. I really like the looks of the Varmint. Just wondering what the difference was between the Varmint and the Longmaster classic?

Thanks
 
I own both, a .204 Varmint and a .308 Longmaster. And I love them both!

They look identical to me so I can't really tell you the difference other than chambering.

I did have trigger jobs done to both, and they shoot better than I can most days. Would I buy another? Yes! But I'll echo Jack and suggest looking at a Cooper (especially the Phoenix) they are really well made and I would likely buy a Cooper over a Kimber given the opportunity
 
I have an 84M and an 8400 Kimber and really like them both. I would buy more. I also have a Cooper Phoenix being built as we speak. They cost a little more than the Kimbers but there are more options with the Coopers. And for me, the Cooper is a throwback to the Kimber of Oregon rifles, as Cooper was started by several former Kimber of Oregon employees.
 
Kimbers rifles are know for spotty quality, I had a bad one and will never spend another $1200 for one. Look at Cooper they have a huge following and great track record for accuracy!
 
my next bolt rifle will NOT be a kimber. accuracy was just not there. i sent it to kimber and they said nothing was wrong with it, but the test target they sent back had a 1.5" 3 shot group with a flyer. they said the flyer was a sighter. they suggested that i wasnt capable of shooting it well! i sold it, and bought a cz model 3. right out of the box i got way better accuracy, for about $200 less.
 
Originally Posted By: 6724my next bolt rifle will NOT be a kimber. accuracy was just not there. i sent it to kimber and they said nothing was wrong with it, but the test target they sent back had a 1.5" 3 shot group with a flyer. they said the flyer was a sighter. they suggested that i wasnt capable of shooting it well! i sold it, and bought a cz model 3. right out of the box i got way better accuracy, for about $200 less.

Sadly this isnt the first experience like this that I have heard of. Considering the price that Kimber rifles carry, you'd think all of their rifles would be "tack drivers." I contacted Kimber a while ago to let them know what I thought of their rifles (but it was a positive message) and they sent me a hat and sticker and a patch and a hat pin to say thank-you for the high remarks.
 
I have looked at the Coopers and held a few. There is just something about the Kimber in my hands, I like it alot better. Does anyone know the difference between the Longmaster and the Varmint? (besides caliber obviously)

Thanks
 
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I have no idea why-but alot of people like to bash the Kimber's. Kind of like Leupold bashing I think.

I own several Kimber rifles. Both Oregon and New York rifles. And I have found all of them to be very nice rifles.

We have two Long Master Classics in 223 Remington cartridge. Both are very good shooters. They will not shoot the internet BS groups of 1/4" all day long. But they easily stay at sub MOA groups with about any reload I have sent down the pipe. And sometimes I get even slightly better groups.

The wood on most that I have seen is pretty nice. Not top notch, but all were decent.

As far as pricing is concerned. I am not sure where someone bought one for $1200?? I paid just over $900 for one, and just under $900 for the other one.

Yes a Cooper is a great rifle. And to be honest they probably are a touch more accurate than the Kimber. But that is off the bench. Not in the field. Never met many hunters on the bench. And my practice is in field like conditions. Not off a bench!!

And the cheapest Cooper's I have seen are close to twice the price of my Kimber's. Also the wood on the base Cooper is not as nice as the wood on a base Kimber. Upgraded wood on a Cooper costs an arm and a leg. Upgraded wood on a Kimber is just an arm.

Don't believe alot of the naysayers. Just buy a Kimber, sight it in and hunt with it. Or spend your life at the bench like alot of internet shooters. Tom.

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Hogghead,

You make some great points. Yes off the bench shooting is flashy, but I want something functional and I am comfortable with...for me that is the Kimber.

75% of the shooting I do is away from the bench. And both guns will outshoot me 7 days a week anyway.
 
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I purchased my Kimber 84 in 30-06 last season. Have not blooded it yet but I to really like the feel of the rifle. The rifle for sure will shoot better than I can most of the time.
 
I think the varmint has a 26in barrel and is a little heavier than the longmaster. My longmaster is a 308 and shoots pretty good. I have had 3 others that I put considerable time into and could not get 1-1/2" groups from any of the three. I have a cooper that will put 10shots into a dime at 100yds but it has alot of work done to it.
 
i am not "bashing" kimber. simply stating a fact that the rifle i had would not group under 1.5" with any of the close to 20 different loads put through it.
i have another kimber that does shoot. but i will not buy another one. buy one, maybe it will shoot well, maybe it wont.
shooting from the bench is a way to test the rifle's capability.
 


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