Labrador Male or Female

nmyotebuster

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I was just contacted by a friend who has some yellow labs up for grabs in 3 more weeks.

Both parents are hunters/birdy. I have hunted over both.

Would you all choose male or female and why?

We have had german Shorthairs until now, and I want to move to a lab next


Thanks in advance,

NM
 
When the bi--h goes into heat two days into duck season you'll kick yer sef in d azz.
When she drops that litter of pups well ...... "whom ever said money can't buy happiness never bought a puppy". Imagine laying down in the back yard with 8,10,14 Lab puppies lickin', bittin', jumpin' on ya all at once.
You need to make that choice. So, really, how would you feel having to leave her home 'cause she's in heat or got a belly full o pups thats gonna pop any day now?
It's a tough decision some times.
Best of Luck with your decision and your new Buddy.
 
I can't imagine why a person would want to stop getting shorthairs. Nothing against labs but why have anything else when you can have a GSP. Either way, the females are easier to train and smarter. Think back to your high school days. I'd still go with the male though. A little more aggressive when you go coyote hunting. I have 1 shorthair pup left by the way.

good luck
 
I agree with 2dogs. One of my buddies had a lab and he was happy when he got his shorthair, and even happier when I got mine. What are you asking for your shorthairs 2dogs?
 
Jerry,

Will you be hunting Pheasant?

I have a female Lab. Granted, she didn't come from hunting parents which would probably help alot, but she is not a great hunting dog at all. I have hunted over some decent Labs on pheasent. The males I have hunted over were much more aggressive. A couple like "Rotter Rutters", they would dig the birds out. My lab won't even bust the brush.

Also, the first time she went into heat, I said to myself.........."never again". /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif I had her fixed. I had a Taco Bell "Chi Chi" dog trying to mate her............he couldn't even reach. Thought about getting him a 5 gallon bucket to stand on. He was parked outside her cage like a 16 year old teenager. Then there was the ole Lab male that wanted a piece of her. I had to spray him with Chyanne Pepper foam and he licked it off like it was ice cream............never again. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Plus my lab was extremely crazy when she was young and continued until at least 5 and she 9 now and I woulnd't call her laid back.


Id go male and would not go with a Lab for upland game. The are Ok sometimes, but wouldn't be my first choice.

Ted
 
All,

Thanks for the informed replies.

To those that wonder why I want something other than the GSP, do you own more than 1 truck or car. I just want to test out some more breeds, and had a lab as a child which was stolen out of the front yard. Would love to have another and the opportunity/price is right.

Ted and NCWhitetail, thanks for the heads-up, I think I will go for the Male, as I don't really want pups, and a bit more independence will be great with the male.

We have hunted pheasant over labs before, but this dog will be more than anything for waterfowl, but may do a little running and gunning for dove and maybe quail out here in the wild west.

Thanks again all!!!!

NM
 
I am on my 2nd lab, she is 5 yrs old. The 1st was a female also. She was spayed at about 9 months. If I was to get another tomorrow it would also be a female. We don't have any issues with 'heat' or puppies. I know my wife dosen't care for my friend's male golden 'marking' everything in sight when he comes over.

If your plans with a female would be to keep it unspayed I could see it may be a problem. If not those other issues don't exist.
 
I am on my second lab right now. Both have been males. Total opposites. The first was extremely hard to train, the second caught on rather quickly. I needed a shock collar and everyday attention on the first. I think it all depends on the dog. Get the right pup out of the litter and you won't have problems. The first male was the last one of the litter to go, he was the dominant. He turned out to be a great dog, just extremely hard to train. On males, I won't recommend cutting them, I have seen many good hunting dog's desire get ruined after the cut. From the dog trainers I have been around, most have said females are easier to train. But like others have said you do have to worry about the heat cycle. I guess I would rather worry about the couple years of training than a lifetime of heat cycles during hunting season and if she will come in contact with males.
 
I would first like to add that I don't have anything against GSP's at all. They are great dogs. I have found them to be a little hard headed though. Probably the best dog I've ever hunted behind, as far as nose goes, was a German Wirehaired Pointer. That dog was simply amazing! I saw her pointing birds with a bird in her mouth a number of times. But you asked about Labs. My current Lab is 6 years old and I've never owned a better dog. I've hunted with better noses as mentioned previously but I've never seen a dog who could do it all as well as this dog. By that I mean, we can Duck hunt all morning, Pheasant hunt all day, and then he can go home and play Barbies with my daughter. That's what I mean by a well rounded dog. The best family dog I could have ever hoped for. Now, if you're looking at getting JUST a hunting dog, and not a PET too, they're are certainly better choices. Labs are people dogs. They want to be by there people all the time. They think they are people. I originally wanted a female out of this litter because I also thought it would be easier to train but my female died at birth. The owner of the B!tch gave me her male out of the litter and I couldn't have been happier. You are going to get dominant dogs in female or male, it's just a crapshoot. Now, I just scrolled up to see where you're from and I read New Mexico. If you hunt in the heat, that could be a factor. Labs obviously have a heavier coat than GSP's and get hotter quicker. I have to really watch my dog in the early season here. Plenty of water on upland hunts but waterfowling is not an issue. A hard driving lab can overheat pretty easy on a warm upland hunt. Now, your question, Male or Female? I'm gonna have to say Male. But if you don't want puppies, get him fixed. Don't believe all the cr#p about it making them lose their drive. If they have a birdy drive, they ain't gonna lose it. This is coming from a guy that never had his dog fixed because I wanted a pup from him someday, and I still do, but I'm not sure it's worth all you have to put up with. Males that are uncut are tough to hunt together. You gotta keep an eye on them or a fight will break out. Nothing worse than two dogs going at it in the middle of a hunt. Plus, they get distracted while hunting when other females are out there. Again, this is upland related and not waterfowl related. If I had to do it all over again, I would probably have had him fixed. JMO, I hope this helps. I would also like to add, I paid alot of money for my pup and this was also a reason I didn't get him fixed. I had originally planned on hunt testing him and a few field trials then charging a stud fee, but time constraints and money kept that from happening. Now I've got the best dog I could have ever hoped for that hunts GREAT with other cut males and most females unless they're in heat, that likes to pee on EVERYTHING!! I don't check this forum very often, feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
 
I could not have said it better than Duckdog I lovr my Labs since my wife wont go get my birds no matter how many time a say FETCH. you wont be displeased good luck
 
nmyothunter;
I LOVE my lab Bi**h . I would probably kill the person that caused her harm. If my wife or son didn't beat me to it. She is very unusal in that she is very laid back for a lab. BUT,know mattter what you decide you MUST BE VERY CAREFUL with your dog the first week of dove season.
More dogs die of heat exhaustion the first week of dove season than any other time of year.
Most of the time; by the time we realise our dogs are getting too hot it's too late.
If ya wanna talk about this send me a PM with your # and I'll be glad to call you. I'l even call ya on my nickel.
Best of luck to you and your new buddy,
Don
 
Thank you all sooooo much. The insights you all have provided have been just what I was looking for.

After playing with the litter this past weekend I am going to take the playful (not overly dominant) male. I get him on Saturday and CAN'T wait. He will be 50 days old.

As for the heat exhaustion etc. I can't say thanks enough for the heads-up. I am aware of our heat, and will do everything to make sure he stays hydrated and gets plenty of rest. This season he will get all the wings I can bring him to work on his nose, and a nice soft mouth.

I will get pictures up when I get him home.

NM
 
Congrat's on a fine choice!! Have fun with it and I wish you and your new partner the best of luck! Keep us updated with pics!
 
I have a 8 month old chocolate male. He's a good dog and is obsessed with birds. He will just sit and watch geese fly over all day long. He's very hard headed though. Takes some patience to get him to do what you want but he's coming along nicely.



I think a female's are easier to train but the males have more stamina and drive. You will be happy with whatever choice you make.
 
As promised.

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Again thanks for all the advice......

One more thing, any name suggestions? Not sure if you can tell, but he is very white, so I was thinking relating to snow, or silver, or the such.

Let your creative juices flow.

NM
 
He's a handsome little fellow /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif. Ain't nothin' cuter than a lab puppy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
Nice lookin' pup! Hard to believe that in about 6 months he'll be big enough to eat you out of house and home huh?! To me, names have to be earned. You'll be calling him something before long and it'll just stick. Just remember, even at this age, everything you do is a training exercise. Try not to do alot of tug of war stuff as a pup. It can create problems you don't want. I would suggest getting him jazzed up about a tennis ball or something. Pups will always want to take whatever it is they have to "their" place. I.E. his little bed in the picture. Start off in a hallway in the house and put yourself as a "blocker" between him and his bed or crate or whatever, so you can intercept him on the way there. Then praise the heck out of him when he gets to you. And I mean overdo it. It's an easy way to get an early good start.
It also looks like he's gonna be a house dog. I would also strongly suggest a kennel of sorts in the house. You know, a vari-kennel or pet porter or something. You gotta start out small and get bigger with him. Make him sleep in it no matter how much he cries. He won't want to mess up his own sleeping quarters after haveing to sleep in a mess a couple of times. This teaches him to hold his urges until you can get him outside. It makes housebreaking a cinch. It also provides him with "his place" in the house. After a while they identify with it as being their place and like it. It also provides you a place to put the pup while you can't be there. They should be able to walk in and turn around and lay down, no bigger than that. I hope this helps. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
I already have a rope toy for chewing. If he puts something in his mouth to chew, it is removed and he gets the rope chewy in its place.

I also have a canvas dummy for playing fetch. It is amazing what you can ind at your local sportsman's warehouse they make some small dummies. At 51 days he goes right after it when ya toss it, and you ain't never seen a more excited guy when i praise him for going to it.

We do have a porta-crate. The bed in the back is my mini schnauzer's. I got a full size crate, but it has a divider that about halves it so you can adjust it as he grows, by sliding it further back the crate. I will get a similar one for the back of the truck.


Thanks again guys,


NM
 


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