Just a couple words from this part of the country for you, LWILLIAMS . . . I own the Lightforce 170 with the scope mount and absolutely love it. I believe it is "only" 400,000 CP, but the CP doesn't matter as much as the way the light is built. My younger brother brought a 2 Mil CP Nightblaster out here a few winters ago and it doesn't hold a candle to my Lightforce (no pun intended). We also compared the Lightforce to several other spotlights, including two from Western Rivers - their cheapest model and their most expensive model - it was no comparison. IN fact, the other spotlights all sit in a box and collect dust. When I first received my Lightforce I was absolutely amazed at the distance the focused beam would shine. Another huge benefit to the Lightforce is the ability to concentrate the light into a tight cone so you're not splashing light all over creation. I practiced with the Lightforce from my pickup by finding rabbits and then holding the light on the rabbit, sliding the gun into position and then attaching the light to the scope - bang. If I had to, I could hunt alone with it - - - but I'm afraid of the dark so I always have someone with me /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif. Let me just say one last thing - once you own the Lightforce, you'll never buy another spotlight.