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Spurchaser

Spurchaser

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Not sure where to post this, it was a toss up between the firearms section or ammo so I chose here.

This might sound stupid but I’m looking for some sort of explanation on bullet performance. I’m shooting a Ruger Gen 2 .308 suppressed. I’ve been shooting Remington CoreLokt 165gr bullets for forever and recently started on a new box this year.

The issue is just about every deer this year has been shot behind the shoulder and has died, but the exits are weird. We have to look for an entry wound which is normal, but the exits are all clogged up with “parts”. Not guts but actual organs. One of CJ’s deer literally had the heart 3/4 of the way out. Luckily we’ve been able to watch all the deer fall because whatever is clogging the exit is preventing blood flow. Again this isn’t guts, this is chest cavity parts.

In one video, you can see what appeared to be a huge blood clot come out when hit. I’m just curious as to what might be causing this. It’s sores like an implosion occurring inside and then the internals being sucked out clogging the exit wound.
 
Was the new box out of the same lot? Or new after the Rem sale? Same barrel(s)? I picked up a box of Rem '06 ammo with tipped corelokts(clearance I don't buy much factory ammo) wondering if they will perform like older corelokts.
 
CoreLokt tipped, but new lot number from my last purchase. The previous boxes produced an exit with blood flow a toddler could follow. Even on pigs they would produce excessive blood trails with a not so bright headlamp at night.
These bullets are just performing differently or our deer are really weird. I plan to shoot the next in the actual shoulder and see what happens. Just didn’t know if anyone might have an explanation. CoreLokts, tipped, have always performed great for me.
 
Seems everything “Remington” is no longer what it once was.

I have seen similar results with muzzleloader and sabot/45 cal XTP 240 gr combination. It’s like they create a vacuum and suck internals out the exit hole, plugging it creating light blood trail. Haven’t had the problem since switching to 300gr Gold Dots with my muzzleloader.
 
I shot a lot of Core-Lokts over the years with great results. They weren’t the tipped version tho. Just the original softpoint version. Kind of grew up using them as the Remington Plant in Ilion NY was 17 miles from where I was born and raised. Core-Lokts were by far the most popular ammo used by locals for deer. “The deadliest mushroom in the woods”
 
I shot a deer a couple of weeks ago with a .270 Winchester and a factory-loaded 150-grain Core-Lokt round nose. This load clusters three shots into a nickel-sized group at 100 yards from my rifle. They chronograph at 2,770 fps from my M700 22" barrel. That round-nose bullet has a generous lot of lead showing at the tip and works wonders on woods deer and hogs. I shot a large whitetail doe through the shoulders from about 40 yards. At the shot, there was a crazy large puff of hair instantly thrown in the air that was visible that came from the offside. The doe was trotting up a steep slope and instantly went airborne like a bass trying to throw a lure out of its mouth. She went completely over backwards and fell out of sight behind a roll in the landscape. I had pinned the shoulders, the hair was from a large piece of bone that blew through her offside lower chest, making a half moon exit that was 4" long. There was an insane amount of blood where she fell. It was a bit of a strange terminal performance. Usually, that bullet has a more controlled expansion, leaving good exits but not destroying too much meat. Kind of a freak thing, I think. That was the biggest piece of solid bone material I have ever seen blown through a deer or hog. I have used Core-Lokt loads in .243, .270, .30-30, .308, .30-06, 7x57, and probably a few other calibers, and never had quite a graphic wound as this one.
 
Possibly a slight change in construction, or composition of the copper.

Several years ago, I was using a 55gr B-tip out of a 243, at 4,000fps+, and I got more runners and floppers with that bullet than any other bullet I had used. Others have said it is a great bullet for coyotes.

I am a big fan of Barnes, and stocked up on the 45gr Barnes XLC for use in my Hornet. I got an accurate load developed and was all set, or so I thought. When I opened a 2nd box of these, the accuracy was poor, compared to the first box.

I started to really look at them, opening all the other boxes, and noticed the Ogive had been changed. The boxes all have the same SKU and UPC numbers on them, but they sure shoot differently.
 
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