Milk prices?

canislatrans54

canislatrans54

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Hey, so I may be a little bored, as it's too cold to make calls outside this morning.
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Anyway...
I heard a rumor on last evening's news, that milk prices are expected to rise drastically after Jan. 1.
Can anyone verify that?

And, out of sheer curiousity...here in Salina, a gallon of basic "Vitamin D" milk, is running between $3.09-$3.99, depending on where you buy it.
What are prices elsewhere?
 
If it does, people need to boycott them. I get tired of hearing that ranchers are not making money when I see a lot of new tractors and other equipment worth millions of dollars sitting on their land. They are always driving new trucks. They get numerous tax write offs including the expenses that they use as a reason to raise the price. They pay no road tax on the fuel they use. They make enough to live on like the rest of us.
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600If it does, people need to boycott them. I get tired of hearing that ranchers are not making money when I see a lot of new tractors and other equipment worth millions of dollars sitting on their land. They are always driving new trucks. They get numerous tax write offs including the expenses that they use as a reason to raise the price. They pay no road tax on the fuel they use. They make enough to live on like the rest of us.

Come on down to my area and you won't see much of that.
I'm losing money left and right these days and it's getting worse.
My newest vehicle is a 98.
My tractor is 7 years old and I will keep it for many more years.
Hay prices have more then doubled this past year.
Other feed prices including corn have gone up even more.

As lots of ranchers sold off most of their herds this past year,
meat prices are going to go way up soon. And it may take more
then a couple of years to build up those herds again.

We also don't get many vacations or even days off for that
matter. For us weekends and holidays are just another day and
those chores especially when you have animals still have to be
done.

The only fuel we don't pay road taxes on is for our actual farm
equipment like tractors, combines, etc.. Those are off road
vehicles. If we get caught putting the off road fuel in our
cars and trucks, that's 1 big fine.

1 last thing for you to think about.
Where does your food come from and can you get along without
those farmers and ranchers ? Do you think the grocery stores
actually produce the food they sell.

By all means, feel free to boycott us.
 
Where I'm from, the Dairy farmers drive 2000s at the newest trucks. Their tractors and implements, are well older then me. The last I heard, they were get $13/100 lbs of milk. Considering there is 8 lbs per gallon, it only takes 1.5 gallons to pay back the farmer. I realize there is cost incurred in the middle, but the commercial companies are the ones to blame. Not a man, working hard, to support his family.
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600If it does, people need to boycott them. I get tired of hearing that ranchers are not making money when I see a lot of new tractors and other equipment worth millions of dollars sitting on their land. They are always driving new trucks. They get numerous tax write offs including the expenses that they use as a reason to raise the price. They pay no road tax on the fuel they use. They make enough to live on like the rest of us.
Out of touch.
Imagine what your groceries would cost of there were no farm/agricultural tax breaks. Unless you got a milk tree in your backyard. Obviously you don't live in a farming community or have family that farms.
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600 I get tired of hearing that ranchers are not making money when I see a lot of new tractors and other equipment worth millions of dollars sitting on their land. They are always driving new trucks.

That brand new equipment that you see is probably not paid for any more than your own vehicle. Usually they buy new machinery because they need the dependablity during harvest. Parts,repair, and down time all cost money.

I wish people could magically know what expenses are for a farmer or rancher.
 
My life relies on agriculture, I manage a hog farrowing unit. All I can say is let it expire. If comoditites go up, they will come back down after the poeple start limiting thier consumption.

But that is the least of it. Having this expire would save this country billions in dollars. 80% of the farm bill has nothing to do with farming or ranching. It's really the Welfare bill. It's the bill that keeps us paying for Big Momma to have more kids. It's should be called the Food Stamp Bill.
 
Originally Posted By: tnshootistIf I remember correctly around 13 per hundred was what we were getting when I left farming around 1980.
that's about what we were getting when I left it in'92. Try to imagine the input cost increase over a ten year period. Never been happier to get out.
 
I am glad to not be milking now.I just could not do it.But if I could call back some years I would like to be in the dairy if there was a way.For me,and maybe more than me,my kind of life I grew up with was gone by the time I was 40.There is only one or two dairies in this county now,it used to be biggest in state.I do miss the way of life.The work was hard,but you slept good.Add:I don't see how any dairy can pay todays expenses on the same pay as 40 years ago.
 
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When I was a kid I couldn't wait to get off the farm.
When I got in my mid-30's I couldn't wait to get back on the
farm again.


Lots of small dairies in these parts went under the past couple of years.
They were just losing to much $$ due to the cost of feed and
hay.
 
What this bill reverts to is idiotic, it's a provision that guarantees dairy ranchers a set price that covers their costs. Because of the way it is figured the cost of living raises that have occurred in the decades since government prices are in effect would force the government to pay a way higher price and store the milk.

In the past the government had the fair price as a fallback for dairies, but they could do better on the open market.

This is a case where a technicality would have the government buying the milk at a way higher price.

The answer for the industry is for dairies to keep selling their milk just as they are now so as to keep their industry stable.

I could see this making a change for the dairy industry that there's no going back on, there are a lot of excellent milk substitutes that are currently higher than milk. Milk doubling would have a huge percentage of people trying those products, liking them, and never going back to milk. I use vanilla almond milk, it's great on cereals, oatmeal, and is just as good as milk for cooking everything including custard and rice pudding. My wife likes rice milk.

If there is no resolution to this it could change the dairy industry permanently, but it would also cost the government a ridiculous amount of money.
 
Just amazed sometimes....

There are several factors for agricultural subsides that the government has paid, is paying, and will continue to pay. Stop and think about it. They provide internal and economic stability......what would happen if over production occurred and commodity prices went crashing....lots of loans would default. There is a national security factor a nation that can feed itself is free from hostile external forces that could impact the food supply. They also help prevent large corporate Agribusinesses or foreign governments from manipulating food cost.

The current issue is with subsidy distribution, large agribusinesses get most of the cash and less and less is actually making it to the family farm. The other is Direct Payments (counter cyclical payments) that pay money to landowners who do not farm at all.

Then there is the control factor, Being able to walk over to the sink and get clean water, flip a switch and the light comes on, push a button on a remote and the 50" plasma screen comes to life. But most importantly....you can for the most part open the frig and eat....

No matter what some say we as a society have never known true famine or starvation. Rule #1 if you want a stable controllable population you have to control the food and make it very accessible and affordable. Cost increases happen but not to the point to where it jeopardizes stability. Let food become a serious issue in a society and the Government's days are numbered and they know this.

just my 25 cents worth.....23 of which are going for agricultural subsides
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Originally Posted By: reb8600If it does, people need to boycott them. I get tired of hearing that ranchers are not making money when I see a lot of new tractors and other equipment worth millions of dollars sitting on their land. They are always driving new trucks. They get numerous tax write offs including the expenses that they use as a reason to raise the price. They pay no road tax on the fuel they use. They make enough to live on like the rest of us. everytime I read this it makes me want to puke.....
 
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