I have owned both I will just share my experiences with you. My Mini with a scope shot terrible. I struggled with many different types of ammo and was lucky to see 4" groups @ 100 yards. Some were worse. I have heard of people that get much better, but mine would not. If mini's are indeed acurate to any degree, then I had a lemon. I eventually traded it for a Rem 700 in .22-250 that is still my favorite even since. I think the mini has its place as a quick shooting off-hand brush gun, but even then your probably better off with a shotgun at that point. I think a mini is better off without a scope. Just my opinion. I was put through the ringer once on this forum for putting down the mini but I stand by it based on my experience. My Varminter on the other hand, Wow! It's a shooter. Granted it is more of a rifle with it's 24" barrel, where as the mini is more of a carbine, very short. Both my AR and the mini cycle very well and are quite reliable. I suppose they both have their place but the AR is superior in every way.