Mosin Nagant m91/30

AzFester

AzFester

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I plan on picking one of these up in the near future... I have found a site that sells a synthetic stock to fit this gun. Would the 7.62x54R do ok for coyotes!! I can get this gun for 80.00 and the stock for 50.00 already have a scope, so 130.00 for a coyote/fun gun without breaking the bank seems pretty good..
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It would be a good truck gun but don't plan on saving fur. That doesn't seem like a bad price for the gun, is it from a individual or NRA.
 
I own and ahoot a 91/30, let me give you a dose of reality. You will find it difficult to find good quality ammo, you can shoot surplus for plinking, and most of it is corrosive, but for hunting you will need soft point or hollow point ammo of a better quality, and that's almost impossible to find. The triggers on those are atrocious, out of the box expect to see a 15 to 20 pound trigger pull, people complain about a 5 or 6 pound trigger, wait till you shoot one of these! You would also need a gunsmith to alter the bolt, the standard bolt cannot be used with a scope in the position shown. The safety is extremely difficult to manipulate, I find it easier just to open the bolt. Did I mention that it kicks pretty darn hard?

If you are looking for something to shoot for fun, buy one and shoot surplus ammo in it, but leave it in the standard configuration, appreciate it for what it is.
 
I say get it! Awesome firearm with a lot of history. Pretty darn accurate for what it is. Keep the original stock so you can take it back to original if you want.

It will thump you when you shoot it, so just understand that it will destroy a yote, but will give your shoulder hell as well.

They can be a bit of a pain to operate, take a herculean effort to operate the bolt at times, but it is one of my favorites.
 
I have one and they are fun to shoot. Cartridge is very close to the .308 Winchester and acts the same... so if you don't mind shooting coyotes with a .308, you won't mind the 7.62X54R. No safety so you have to be careful and carry the thing with nothing in the chamber. And the carbines are loud. Accuracy is pretty good for an old military rifle. I left mine as is with bayonet and all. Mounting a scope is a problem with them.
 
You'd be better off watching the pawnshops for somthing else. I had a M44 the carbine, it would shoot 5 inch groups at 100 yards with a scope. I would rather have a 22 mag then a mosin for coyote hunting. You can get a Savage 22 mag from Walmart for like $165. Either way wether you get a 22 mag or a mosin nagant, you still will be looking for shots inside 100 yards. I just sold a .223 NEF heavy barrel for $150 that would have been a better predator gun then a mosin for calling, just keep looking would be my advice.
 
AzFester,
Save your money buddy, they are a piece of junk The Russians didn't win too many wars with it... Like the one guy said, the bolt, Safety and the trigger are atrocious not worth the time to fix......Plenty of nice guns out there for not too much more money.
You will regret buying it. And later when you hate it, you will not get 50 bucks for it. My brother had one back in the 60's... Oh..they would make a good boat anchor..lol just my 2 cents worth /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
They will work for every thing from PD's to Deer if you want. But remember where they came from and do not be disapointed at the quality of workmanship. Think of it as the SKS of bolt actions.
 
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They will work for every thing from PD's to Deer if you want. But remember where they came from and do not be disapointed at the quality of workmanship. Think of it as the SKS of bolt actions.



Hey now! The SKS is the bomb!
 
If you want a great shooting surplus rifle, pick up a Swiss K-31. I have 3 of them, and an older 1911 swiss long rifle. My K-31 will put 5 shots of surplus or reloads inside 4" @ 100 yards. Ahh yea thats open sights too, no scopes.

The 7.5X55 swiss ammo is more money than the mosin ammo, but the rifle is a work of art, very smooth straight pull bolt action, 2 stage trigger, detachable box mag, and great barrels because the swiss never used corrosive componets in their ammo. I didnt pay over 125 for any of my K-31's. Had I drawn an elk tag this year I would have hunted with it.

To use the words Mosin and SKS in the same sentence is doing a great diservice to the SKS, and I am in no means a fan of the SKS. I have a 91/30 and as said its a rough, hard to operate POS. I hammer the crap out of it, never clean it, just sit on top of the hills blasting ammo out of it. Get it so hot the cosmo is leaching out of the wood, throw it in the back of the truck and drive home. It is the only real POS rifle I have in my collection, and I treat it like one! Save the cash get something else, unless you need something to drive tent stakes with.
 
They do have a safety, just not easy to operate. I presently have an M38 (a short gun on the same action) and a 91/30. I have had two other M38s and an M44. The two m38s and the m44 are gone because the barrels were no good. I bought them with my C&R from wholesalers for cheap. The 91/30 and the M38 that I kept shoot pretty good. We shot the m38 off a sled with the issue sights and the Czech silver tip fmj ammo and it went 3/4 inch at 50 yards. The 91/30 will do about 3 inches at 100 with the same ammo. THAT AMMO IS CORROSIVE AND YOU MUST CLEAN ACCORDINGLY!!!! Don't see any reason for not using the fmj surplus ammo on coyotes. The main concern is ricochets so you need to keep that in mind.

Big Five runs the 91/30s, M38s and M44s on sale for about 79 or 80 bucks pretty regular in my neighborhood. If you can buy from a dealer and inspect the bore you will be able to get good one right off.

They are NOT crappy manufacture! They are well designed and highly functional. But, they are a battle rifle!! Many 91/30s were made in the us some by Westinghouse and others, I believe, by Remington.

If you reload, you can roll some very good ammo for it.

The issue sights will usually not do. Most of them shoot high on the lowest rear sight setting. You can move the front sight for windage. If you want to scope it, look into the SK scout mounts that attache to the existing issue rear sight block. Your scope and mount will quadruple the value of your rifle.(lol)
 
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Czech silver tip fmj ammo and it went 3/4 inch at 50 yards. The 91/30 will do about 3 inches at 100 with the same ammo. THAT AMMO IS CORROSIVE AND YOU MUST CLEAN ACCORDINGLY!!!! Don't see any reason for not using the fmj surplus ammo on coyotes. The main concern is ricochets so you need to keep that in mind.





Hey Longcruise!

I got some of that same czech ammo....we call it chex mix! For a good time take that ammo, find some really hard boulders, we use granite boulders here in western co, from a ways off, across the hay field like 400 or so, shoot it at nite!!! its like the 4th of july, those steel cores make for good fireworks at night!
 
There are good surplus Mosins, and bad ones too. I got a really really good one for $79 at Big 5 on sale after searching for the "perfect" rifle for almost a year.

1939 Mosin Nagant 91/30. All original matching parts, perfect bore, 99% bluing. Gunsmith said it had likely never been fired outside the factory. Smooth but long trigger pull, probably 5 lbs and feels like a 2-stage.

It shot very well with iron sights with the right ammo, so I had a reproduction PU sniper mount drilled and tapped onto the reciever, then added a modern Burris 4x scope to replicate the look of a PU sniper scope. I had Jim the Boltman bend my bolt. I refinished the stock myself because the original shellac was flaking after I started using it.

All said and done the whole project cost me just under $400 start to finish. With my reloads, I have shot several consecutive 3-shot groups UNDER 1/2" at 100 yards. This rifle doesn't really like surplus ammo too much. S&B 174gr BTHP match ammo shoots about the same as my reloads. My bore prefers .303 bullets.

I've only shot one coyote with it, it was a 13-yard shot on the charge. Should have brought the bayonet!!! The bullet entered his neck/front chest and exited his rear leg nearly blowing it off. That's at least two feet of penetration.

Here it is after I refinished the stock but before the scope mount:
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Receiver stamps:
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Close up of stock:
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Finished:
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First coyote kill:
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I have a m91/30 and they aint junk. I got mine from Big 5 also with all assy's. Mine is a 1936 receiver and re-arsenald to like new condition, bolt is stiff and trigger pull is long but thats just the way they are. For $80 a real piece of great shooting history. Not my 1st choice as a varmint rifle but with good mil surp ammo like czech silver tip (corrosive) but cheap, available and accurate a geat old shooter.

Good shooting and have fun....
 
I hunt with an M44 carbine right now. If it's your only option, it will work. You have to almost strangle the trigger to get it to fire, but once the dust cloud clears and you get up off your back and out of the tree you were using to sit against, there should be a coyote on the ground. But if you can swing it, I HIGHLY encourage you to get something with lighter recoil and a lighter trigger pull. It's a beast of a gun! You can find soft-point hunting ammo from Cabela's and J&G Gun Sales. 20 rounds for about $14.
 
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