Mossberg 835 with #4 buck

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Coyote-conquest

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I see the shotgun pattern thread and read a lot of the 99 pages. It's too big and It doesn't really answer my question. I know the back bored to a 10ga barrel makes the 835 a totally different animal from normal shotguns as far as the choke sizes or just a choke for #4 buck. I have the original x full .695 turkey choke and it does ok but not great with #4 buck. It's not great with turkey loads either. I also have a Carlson .690 that is about the same. I also have a Truglo that is .670 that doesn't work with #4 buck at all. Might be great with turkey loads. I see some people say a more open choke and some people say a turkey choke is best. If you look on the net and listen to everybody it seems that nobody really has the 835/935 figured out. You get conflicting info. Even different company's have way different size chokes for the same things. That being said should I try like a .705 or maybe a .715 choke or maybe a .680 or . 675 would be best? I don't want to buy 5 different chokes considering the price of them. I do know my Mossberg 535 has a Redhead turkey choke that I bought at Cabelas that blows it away with both turkey loads and #4 buck. It's a .660. It has a 28" barrel and doesn't carry as well in the thick stuff so I'm hoping I can figure out the 835. I also don't really believe that every gun works with xxx amount of restriction. It seems most who say the are shooting a Remington or something else totally different. Anyway I'd like to hear some thoughts or maybe some people who have been down This road can chime in.
Thanks
 
Maybe change your load.
Do you reload?
Factory shells?
I'm not a fan of #4 buck normally.
We reload and use 12 gauges.
I load lead "F" shot and shoot it through a .669 choke with outstanding long-range 70 yards plus load combo.
Try the dead coyote hevi shotshells there is an "F" shell that's lights out the best one I have shot but around $5 a shot.
 
I have found somewhere between .050" - .060" constriction to be a sweet spot. Your bore is .775" so if it were me I would be looking at a more open constriction than you have been trying.
 
I don't recall what choke I used, but I used to have an 835. Killed quite a few coyotes & deer with #4 buck. As I recall I used a pretty tight choke on mine, an extra full. but I sold it quite a few years back & can't be sure now.

I did shoot a lot of it on paper to figure out what patterned best though.
 
I do not reload shotgun. I'd like to start. I already reload for several rifle calibers. I've been sticking to the #4 buck because of the cost and they are easy to find.
 
I have an 835 and it most definitly needs a more open choke with anything larger than BB shot.Mine likes Kick' chokes.I use their Buck Kicker LT Full with 4 buck and their Goblin Thunder .680 for turkeys with 4 or 5 shot.The gun throws excellent patterns with any size shot once you find the right tubes for the shot size you're using.
 
I found 3 inch #4 buck Remington to he quite effective on coyotes. It can be effective on deer but it's actually marginal. larger sizes are more reliable for that.
 
I use the Winchester varmint x 12ga with a Carlson's dead coyote choke and it shoot a nice pattern. The Winchester varmint x are reasonably priced and work well .
 
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Originally Posted By: Coyote-conquestI see the shotgun pattern thread and read a lot of the 99 pages. It's too big and It doesn't really answer my question. I know the back bored to a 10ga barrel makes the 835 a totally different animal from normal shotguns as far as the choke sizes or just a choke for #4 buck. I have the original x full .695 turkey choke and it does ok but not great with #4 buck. It's not great with turkey loads either. I also have a Carlson .690 that is about the same. I also have a Truglo that is .670 that doesn't work with #4 buck at all. Might be great with turkey loads. I see some people say a more open choke and some people say a turkey choke is best. If you look on the net and listen to everybody it seems that nobody really has the 835/935 figured out. You get conflicting info. Even different company's have way different size chokes for the same things. That being said should I try like a .705 or maybe a .715 choke or maybe a .680 or . 675 would be best? I don't want to buy 5 different chokes considering the price of them. I do know my Mossberg 535 has a Redhead turkey choke that I bought at Cabelas that blows it away with both turkey loads and #4 buck. It's a .660. It has a 28" barrel and doesn't carry as well in the thick stuff so I'm hoping I can figure out the 835. I also don't really believe that every gun works with xxx amount of restriction. It seems most who say the are shooting a Remington or something else totally different. Anyway I'd like to hear some thoughts or maybe some people who have been down This road can chime in.
Thanks

You have some great points in your question. On forums, it’s all opinion. Some are better than others because of use/research, etc.

I also tried two different 835’s and couldn’t get either to pattern consistently. That’s what I look for, consistency. On the coyotes I kill with the shotgun I have found anywhere from 6 to 20 pellet hits. That figures out roughly to an average of 25-30%. So that’s what I look for in my patterns. Just about every shotgun I’ve ever pattern tends to put the pattern into one quadrant consistently except the 835’s. Their pattern seemed to shift no matter what choke I used if I was using #4 buck. So I sold them. They might be good turkey guns but not predator guns. I have a 28in 500 and a 20 in 535 and both pattern much better than the 835.

In my research I concluded that the overbored barrel let the buckshot bounce around before it hits the choke causing the odd patterning. I have nothing other than the pattern results and the pellets I’ve recovered to support that theory.

I run a Carlson’s Dead coyote choke with a .660 constriction out to 60 yards with my farthest kill being 78 yards with Remington 41pellet #4 or a imp cyl or mod inside of 40 depending on my stand location.
 
It seems one of the troubles of putting a 10 gauge barrel on a 12 gauge gun is that many 12 gauge shells won't obturate enough to seal the bore behind the shot cup. This allows gases to flash by and around the shot cup which disrupts the pellets and disrupts the pattern. The same thing applies to the common Foster rifled slugs. The lead skirt of a 12 gauge Foster slug doesn't seal up the 10 gauge bore.
 
Originally Posted By: GCOriginally Posted By: willy1947

Cylinder Bore with cut-outs




What is a "cut - out"?

when i was a teenager we installed cut outs on our cars so we could be loud and cool dragging main street on Friday night.

on a shotgun barrel i dunno. where is ASSASSIN1 when you need him?
 
[beeep]#1 would have that 835 killing coyotes at 200 yards given his special treatment. His technique of taking a stock gun and adding a great deal of imagination and adjusting the bullchit factor to suit that choke and load is legendary stuff. Nobody does it like [beeep]#1, best in the business.
 
I understood from the start that slugs were not a good idea in the stock barrel so I never tried them.

I did shot a lot of turkey loads as well as 3" and 3 1/2" buckshot in #4, 00 and 000 through mine.

Never did kill a turkey with it, just deer and coyotes.
 
I will second the kick part, and mine doesn’t seem to pattern well either. And its too [beeep] expensive, I just use the rifle anymore. Mostly night hunt anyway.
 
I'm going to try a more open choke and see what it does. I haven't patterned it for turkeys yet either. If I can't get it to pattern good I'll send it down the road. I have the 535 that shoots awesome. I read somewhere that Mossberg made the 835 because somehow it helped it pattern steel shot for water fowl better
 


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