i live in nj where we can only use shotguns with t shot or muzzle during daylight hours. i called 4 yotes this year first light and only shot one at 50 yards that i never recovered. i here talk of muzzle loaders being able of 3 inch groups 200 hundred yards i see alot of trigger and barrel mods for encore just woundering on ammo and if anyone else does this on a regular basis. thanks
muzzle loader for coyote
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What kind of muzzle loader do you have? Or do you have one?
I have a slow twist round ball gun that is good for 150 yards on small targets. It is a Lyman .54 cal Great Plains rifle with 1:60 twist. It has a set trigger which is nice. Round balls are easy to find, accurate and cheap. A 40 or 45 caliber round ball gun would shoot a little flatter and have enough knock down for Coyotes. The slower twist barrels are better when shooting round balls at high velocity 1400 - 2000 fps.
If you go with an inline or other gun to shoot conicals get one with a twist rate faster than 1:48.
I have a slow twist round ball gun that is good for 150 yards on small targets. It is a Lyman .54 cal Great Plains rifle with 1:60 twist. It has a set trigger which is nice. Round balls are easy to find, accurate and cheap. A 40 or 45 caliber round ball gun would shoot a little flatter and have enough knock down for Coyotes. The slower twist barrels are better when shooting round balls at high velocity 1400 - 2000 fps.
If you go with an inline or other gun to shoot conicals get one with a twist rate faster than 1:48.
Dultimatpredator
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If you check some of my old posts I have pics of my Omega shooting a large "one" hole group at a 100 yards using 150g of tripple 7 pellets and a 300g TC Shockwave bullet. I can hit pop cans consistantly at 200 yards with this combination all day long. This combo will tear up up fox pelts.
KillerHiller
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Encore with 250 grain hornady SST Sabots and 150 grains of powder produced 3" group at 200yds for me with iron sights (can't use scopes in MN for Deer during MZL season)
Have not specifically went after coyotes with it, but can't imagine any load with a single projectile from a muzzle loader would be fur friendly. Of course maybe a roundball
KH
Have not specifically went after coyotes with it, but can't imagine any load with a single projectile from a muzzle loader would be fur friendly. Of course maybe a roundball
KH
I've hunted coyotes for years with muzzleloaders because of my writing and often coyotes were the only game available when rifles came in. I really prefer Hornady .45 caliber 260 grain hollow points in black MMP sabots shot through a .50 caliber muzzleloader. Any accurate powder charge from 85 to 110 grains will do. I most often use a Traditions Pursuit Pro with a 3-9X40mm scope and very seldom shoot with magnification above 3X. My most common powder charge in that rifle is two Triple 7 50-grain pellets and the rifle will consistently group inside of two inches at 100 yards. I sight in 2" high at 50 yards and am pretty much dead on out to 120 yards. You don't need premium bullets for coyotes and you need to develop your most accurate load. I normally use shooting sticks and take along a pump shotgun for close range shots but in areas where only shotguns and muzzleloaders are allowed this combo works very well.
Dultimatpredator
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This is my 3 shot 100 yard group mentioned above. Its the first time I scoped my muzzleloader and tried this combination.
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If you want fur friendly then a .36 or .40 cal round ball would be a good choice. A .32 (.31) cal round ball is 45 grains, a .36 (.35) is 65 grains and a .40 (.39) cal is 89 grains. You can easily drive these balls to 1700+ fps with 35 - 45 grains of FFF power. The smaller cal round ball barrels will have a faster twist around 1:48. You need a slower twist for larger balls.
If you have a TC Renegade with 1" barrel you can get a drop in small caliber round ball barrel -->
http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/catalog.aspx?catid=1InchInterchangeableBarrels
If you have a TC Hawken rifle with 15/16" barrel in .32 and up calibers -->
http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/catalog.aspx?catid=1516-InterchangeableBarrels
If you have a TC Renegade with 1" barrel you can get a drop in small caliber round ball barrel -->
http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/catalog.aspx?catid=1InchInterchangeableBarrels
If you have a TC Hawken rifle with 15/16" barrel in .32 and up calibers -->
http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/catalog.aspx?catid=1516-InterchangeableBarrels
were not allowed to carry 2 guns with us. i do not have a muzzle loader. nj law for coyote is no smaller than a .44cal muzzle loader. can use any bullet can use any scope.can use any muzzle loader. being that i would only use this gun for coyote could i use a cheaper gun than say 600.00 and still get 85 grain ball to hit 150 yards consently. sorry but clueless when it comes to muzzle loader performance. i know hornaday sabots are very good thats what i use in my 20g sluggun for deer can hit 150 with goodrest everytime but not allowed for coyote. very bad state to live in if you hunt. im jealous of you guys and your rifles which i lived enywhere but here. thanks
If you can use any muzzle loader then get the Savage ML-II. No mess to clean up and a lot easier to get to shoot well than others. Well within your price range. The ability to use modern propellants really flattens out the learning curve for the jump into muzzle loading. There are loads available to reduce pelt damage as well.
John
John
Longcruise
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Got my first ml coyote last fall while deer hunting. Was a .50 cal round ball at 145 yards.
Balls make nice round holes going in and coming out. Very little hide damage.
A .45 RB gun would be a great choice for coyotes.
The balls take more time to learn to shoot and need to be loaded in the right kind of barrel, but they are cheap to shoot and there's nothing like getting a lot of practice with any gun.
The .50 I used last year was a traditions deer hunter with a 1/48 twist that I bought for less than $150.
Balls make nice round holes going in and coming out. Very little hide damage.
A .45 RB gun would be a great choice for coyotes.
The balls take more time to learn to shoot and need to be loaded in the right kind of barrel, but they are cheap to shoot and there's nothing like getting a lot of practice with any gun.
The .50 I used last year was a traditions deer hunter with a 1/48 twist that I bought for less than $150.