Need Info on Suppressors

Snipe Em

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I'm thinking about getting a suppressor and have a few questions. My current predator rifle is a Remington 700SPS Varmit .22-250. If I get one for it and decide to build an AR can it be switched over or are they gun specific?

#1 - Do they affect accuracy and range?
#2 - How much do they cost?
#3 - What are some reputable brands?
#4 - If ammo isn't loaded subsonic how much quiter is it?

If there are any other things I need to know feel free to let me know as I know nothing about them.

Thanks in advance
 
They're caliber specific, kind of. As long as you have threaded barrels you can move them around, but if you have a .22 caliber suppressor and mount in on your 30-06 bad things will happen. But if you have a 30 cal suppressor you can mount it on a .22 caliber with a loss of efficiency but no worries.

#1, a bit but depends on your rifle.
2. $200 tax stamp and most I've seen start around $500 and go up from there.


4. With a good one, about 30db reduction. Most .223 supersonic loads and all 22-250 supersonic loads are still in hearing damage territory with a suppressor and no ears.
 
Do a bit of research on the net, there's a lot of available information on suppressors out there.

Top of the line suppressors even take individual load into consideration. Each caliber, each load, each barrel length, etc... creates it's own specific sound wave length when the shot cracks. Those that are especially serious in the design of suppressors factor that wave length into their design, thus causing the sounds waves to work against themselves in the design of the suppressor.

Check your state regs, some allow them, some don't. Some allow you to own them, and don't allow you to use them. Some allow you to play with them, but don't allow you to hunt with them.

Many suppressors use an over the barrel design to extend length, while retaining a closer center of gravity. Basically the suppressor is threaded about the middle, if you buy one of these models you will of course have to make sure your forestock on the AR will clear.

The goodies I found were NOT cheap!
 
Originally Posted By: Snipe EmIf I get one for it and decide to build an AR can it be switched over or are they gun specific?

If there are any other things I need to know feel free to let me know as I know nothing about them.
YES, generally speaking, you can switch it to any similar caliber or smaller, depending on manufacturer ratings and specs. I personally run a .30 cal suppressor on a .243WSSm because I know that it will work for everything ranging from .223-.30cal. Yes, a dedicated .223 suppressor will usually provide better reduction, but to have a .30 suppressor provide 28db reduction on a .223 and 32db reduction on a .243WSSM and .35 db reduction on a .30cal and use one for everything. Its very hard to dispute the results and justify a dedicated suppressor for each caliber. (if you use a 6.5, 7mm or even .30 cal and have considered suppressing it... GET THE .30 cal and use it for everything.

Originally Posted By: Rocky1Many suppressors use an over the barrel design to extend length, while retaining a closer center of gravity. Basically the suppressor is threaded about the middle, if you buy one of these models you will of course have to make sure your forestock on the AR will clear.
Actually, very few utilize a design of this kind and I know of ZERO that attach on an AR back behind the gas block.

The greater majority are strictly muzzle attachment. Either direct thread, quick thread, or fast attach.
A few utilize 2 point attachment but it has generally been regarded as a less accurate design do to disrupted barrel harmonics.

Originally Posted By: Snipe Em#1 - Do they affect accuracy and range?
#2 - How much do they cost?
#3 - What are some reputable brands?
#4 - If ammo isn't loaded subsonic how much quiter is it?

1) yes, typically, you will achieve a 20-50 fps increase in velocity, which in turn accounts for extended range. Also, a suppressor will typically reduce average group size at a given range, because of decreased gas turbulence as the bullet exists the muzzle.
2) as noted...the greatest cost depends on materials and caliber. 223/556 range from 400-1000 + transfer fees and $200 tax stamp
3)WAY TO MANY to try making a list. Do some searching on suppressors using the link in my signature line. I have a few comments on suppressors a ways back that has 8-10 good brands. Lots of others are available, but it really depends on your budget.
4) again, depends on the caliber, but rifle is usually in the 28-35 db reduction range. If folks are saying a 223 or 22-250 is not being suppressed to hearing safe levels...they're not using a can with adequate suppression. I have personally been in the presence of 2 that are wonderful on the 22-250.
 
Go over to snipershide.com. They have a whole discussion forum dedicated to supressors. Lots of good info there. I just got a Gemtech G5. PM me in a couple of weeks and I'll tell you what I think about it. My total drive out was $1200.

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SilencerTalk.com would be a better suggestion considering that entire forum is dedicated to suppressors and NFA items.
Snipers hide is still full of mixed reviews and bad information. SilencerTalk has industry professionals that make a living building them and others that make a living testing them
 
Originally Posted By: cbass16 SilencerTalk.com would be a better suggestion considering that entire forum is dedicated to suppressors and NFA items.
Snipers hide is still full of mixed reviews and bad information. SilencerTalk has industry professionals that make a living building them and others that make a living testing them

+1

I went to Snipershide first when I first started asking suppressor questions. I found what I thought to be a lot of personal opinions with a lot of bias either for or against. Came away feeling like nobody built a can worth scrap metal. I then found silencertalk.com and got what I felt to be more of an unbiased opinion on different brands from experts.

I ended up getting the AAC 7.62SD. I was looking for a 30 cal quick disconnect can so I could use it on my AR-15 also. Although it isn't "ideal" for the smaller rounds, I was told that the increased volume of the 30 cal can makes up for the difference in bullet diameter.

I found the 762SD can to be a good compromise between the lightest (Gemtech Quicksand) and most affordable (Yankee Hill). I take the sound reduction claims with a grain of salt. As far as I know, there isn't an industry standard for measuring suppressors. I've been around a few 5.56 suppressors and it's basically like listening to a 22lr.

If you get a quick detach, be sure to find a vendor that supplies an adapter with the purchase. I got mine with one adapter for less than what some dealers were charging for the suppressor only. Depending on what brand you go with, it could be another $100 for the adapter only.
 
Thanks for the answers guys. I'm really wanting to get one and I might go with a .30 cal for the reasons you guys mentioned.
 


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