New Mexico Non-Resident Coyote hunters beware.

Okie Hunter

Okie Hunter

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New Mexico Non-Resident Coyote hunters beware.

The New Mexico "rulebook" is not very clear and DesertRam was very convincing so I called a game warden today to verify the law.

If you are a non-resident and want to shot coyotes with a gun or bow and leave them lay in the field, all you need is a non-resident non-game license (or other non-resident license) cost is $50.00.

However, if you want to keep the coyote for fur, mounting, or A CONTEST you must have a non-resident furbearer license cost is $300.00.

The “rule book” does not come close to saying this but the warden told me very clearly if a non-resident gets caught with a coyote in his possession its fine city and the possibility of loosing his hunting privileges.

If you are coming in from out of state to hunt one of the contest better be careful.

Thanks DesertRam, you may well have saved me some heart burn and a few hundred bucks. I was planning on doing some shooting and skinning this weekend. I will wait till my 90 days are up.
 
Originally posted by Okie Hunter:
[qb]New Mexico Non-Resident Coyote hunters beware.

The “rule book” does not come close to saying this but the warden told me very clearly if a non-resident gets caught with a coyote in his possession its fine city and the possibility of loosing his hunting privileges.

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I wonder if he can provide some reference when he is telling you what is and what is not. I also wonder if what he tells you will hold up in court when it is not clearly defined. The NM G+F has alot of stuff in the proclamation that is not clearly defined. I wish they would do something about that.
yucca
 
My guess is the “letter of the law” is more clear and concise on the matter. He told me the “book” was not written by hunters and was not very clear.

What worries me is going forward with future NM hunting trips. After 90 days I will be a resident and when it is appropriate I will put in for deer, elk and antelope draws. Assuming I draw a tag, I will read the “rule book”. I don’t have a very high degree of confidence that when following the “book” I will be following the law. After you read the rules on coyote hunting and there is no clear collation to what the law really is, what are the real rules on elk or other big game?

I am betting there has been violation after violation of this one rule at yote hunting contests year after year. What about the World Championship held at Cortez, CO (I think thats were it is every few years). How many of those guys from out of state hunted in New Mexico and how many bought the furbearer license?

Scary to me.
 
If you want to hunt in a contest you can alway hunt with a resident on your team that should keep you clear of problems.

The g+f does not want anything to do with coyotes but they will take some revanue for a non resident harvesting a coyote.

I just wish they would be much clearer in the way they word some of the stuff in the proclamation.

yucca
 
Sorry Yuccabush, but technically you are wrong. I ask the warden that very question today and the answer was technically that would be a violation. Even if I was with a resident if I killed the dog I would have to let it lay. That’s the technical side of the law.

What about the guy that does not know a resident to hunt with?

I have been down this path in Bass tournaments. One is responsible for his or her on catch or kill.

Do they give polygraphs at these contests? What about the big ones where there is real money changing hands?
 
chiming in here from northern nm.
yes he is corrct, you shoot it it is yours you touch it without a license,busted !
but,
if you have a valid license of any type, deer,elk,etc.
you can shoot all you want and pick em up.

who here is from nm, and what part of the state do you hail from.
aztec,nm., here....
 
I'm sorry guys, I thought the DFG in Calif was bad.....The DGF in NM is the worst I've ever seen. When it comes to predator hunting these guys need some help. Just my opinion
 
Originally posted by splattermatic:
[qb]if you have a valid license of any type, deer,elk,etc.
you can shoot all you want and pick em up.

who here is from nm, and what part of the state do you hail from.
aztec,nm., here....[/qb]
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That's partially true. You might get away with picking it up and/or taking a photo but, as a non-resident, if you take possession of said coyote without a furbearer's license you are breaking the law. As money-hungry as our Game and Fish is you can bet they'd happily right you a citation for that, regardless of your intent. Another non-resident license (elk, deer, etc.) only allows you to shoot unprotected furbearers, not collect or harvest their fur. In order to do that you must have the furbearer's license, which is $300. The regulation book to which OkieHunter refers is a bit unclear, but I'd wager the statute upon which it is based is not (at least in legalese). There are reams of laws about wildlife and hunting - there's no practical way to distill it all down into layman's terms in the regulation book.

I'm from NM - near Las Cruces. I grew up in the Bloomfield area.
 
splattermatic,

Deming, NM here.

Question, I haven't been up in your area for years but can you still get in to see Tom Bollacks' trophies. I did years ago and it was well worth the trip.

Biker
 
I thought I'd throw my $.02 in. Last summer I was thinking about a trip down to NM for some coyote calling. The rules seemed extremely vague so I broke down and called a district office who gave me the number of a warden to call, which I did. I was told the same thing, a non-resident can hunt coyotes off a general permit, but the second you pick that dog up you need the fur-bearer permit. It didn't really make me that mad, I just thought it was really stupid to have to go through all the work to find out one small but very important discrepancy.
 
Guys, it's really best if nobody comes here to predator hunt. Reason being there ain't no predators and you'd be saving lots of money. Besides the state having strange rules, the hunting stinks.
 
i have to aggree billy, there are no coyotes or praire rats around anymore..
and yes bollack's is still open, you just need to make an appointment.
the old man died a few years ago and tommy is in charge now..
(don't get me started about him, he is very strange)

tommy put dad in fireworks and shot him up into the night sky to fall over the property.
it was cool, i was thinking what my wife should do with my ashes, she said take me to alaska and scatter me over the kenai while she is battling a salmon..
sounds cool to me..

anyways , i am friends with a local warden around here and i will ask her, and get a definate answer to this situation.
 
I thought here guys! I got the same crud in Oregon where I hold a non resident license. The F and G that I talked to stated that I need a furbearers license also. But here is the rub, I dug further and found out that the state defines a coyote as a "predator" and nowhere does it refer to it as a "furbearer" (unlike fox and bobcat which i can not hunt without the furbearers license). I took the evidence back to the same official who went "oops, I mispoke /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif " So check out the definition of furbearer and see if coyote is classified as one. I bet it is not /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
game warden, what are those, Oh thats the guys you can't find in the field, last year I spent over 100 days, out hunting, never saw one, but come in to town, and you might crash into one, call the office, to report something, and they say, well we'll see what we can do, they never show up...
 


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