Thank you all for the input and confirming my suspicions about pvs-14s, sounded good but if I can't see much its not worth it then. Handsfree is more of wish than a requiremen but yeah the ir-patrol is out of my price range at the moment but maybe I will hold off and save up.
Kirsch what about the scopes you mentioned make them mediocre scanners, I've never held a scanner so I dont know the difference between one and the xp50. is it just weight and how it fits your hand or are there other factors?
I definitely agree about requiring movement to identify before moving, luckily all the ones I have snuck up on were mousing and moving in the fields or pasture so id has been pretty easy.
Again thanks for the replys I will keep researching and maybe see if the xp38s come down now that the new ones are coming out
