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P.S. it doesnt matter what brand or shape of bullet you are using when you seat the bullets so the rim to ogive lenght is the same. you will have to find the "sweet spot" for each brand of bullet but i know where to put the ogive of the bullet in relation to the rim of the case "so it is close to or on the lands". that is where i start out. using this method you can put the ogives to all shapes and brands of bullets close to the lands because you have the ogive to rim length that is close to or on the lands for that rifle. it always stays the same for all bullets. rim to ogive measurement! you have to adjust your die from brand to brand but that is it.