Outers Foaming Bore Cleaner Product review

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StevenF

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I got a couple of cans of this stuff a few weeks back when I was browsing the local Walmart. They had it on clearance for a buck,fifty. So today I pulled out four of my guns that had varying degrees of copper fouling; a Marlin 45-70, 300 Weatherby, Winchester M70 30-06 and a Remington 700 in 243. The 243 was severely fouled and I've had one heck of a time finding something that would really clean it.

Ok, so this stuff comes in a small aerosol can with a short plastic hose attached. Instructions say to fill the barrel with foam from the breech end, if possible, then wait 15 to 30 minutes and swab, no need for brushes.

Well I worked on the 45-70, 300 WM, and the 30-06 first. All three came remarkably clean with the first application. The first application on the 243 took about a third of the fouling out so I reapplied and left for three hours. I just went back and finished it and it is remarkably spotless. This stuff devours copper. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Downside:

It becomes really sticky if left in any part of the gun and infact the instructions clearly state not to get it in the loading mechanism. Well, lemme tell you if you spray it until it comes out the end of the barrel there's gonna be some coming back into the receiver. I had never completely broken down my 45-70 before and it was not much fun putting it back together. However, I did finally teach myself the proper way to reinstall the hammer trigger group after about 30 minutes of fighting with it. So I would not use it in anything that you aren't comfortable taking apart.

It's not recommended for gas operated semi-autos. I guess because it will get into the gas tube. Bummer

It's a little messy so don't try to do it where you can't drip a little because it's going to.

If you have brass cleaning rods you'll have to wipe them really good or you will have bright blue cleaning rods in a few hours.

Overall this stuff is amazing and I plan on keeping it on hand.
 
I've been using foaming bore cleaners for over 3yrs, I just use different sizes of neoprene and vinyl tubing to achieve a seal in the chamber so the excess ends up in a small plastic pop bottle stuck over the muzzle. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Leave it in overnight, start with the rifle laying on one side, turn it over about half way thru the cleaning cycle, it turns to a liquid after some time and settles in the bottom of the bore and doesn't work on the dry side as well. Usually one overnight is all it takes, but severe fouling may take multiple treatments, but involves no elbow grease, just the a patch or two between treatments.

The Gunslick in 12oz cans is $11 at Sportsman's Warehouse, is the same product as the Outers, made by Milfoam, WipeOut is a different product and may work slightly better, but costs more.

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I've used this stuff for quite some time, too. Good stuff. I use it on a Vanguard .257mag every 12rounds for right now while it's being broke in.

Also use it on the Marlin Guide Gun 45-70 and a Savage model 111 in .270win.

That .257mag can foul up real quick from 71gr of powder down a small tube and 3600fps leaves alot of copper behind....so I have to stay caught up with it.
 
I've had great luck with Outers, I purchased it wanting the foaming cleaners never used it until a few weeks ago. Lemme tell ya I should have used this years ago when I bought it! I've used it in all my long guns. Have had no problems in any of my AR's and love the fact that I can clean all my guns at once. I have used just about everything to clean copper. The foam is by far the best and easiest. Thanks for the post StevenF. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
I used the Gunslick and was very impressed, fast, easy and got all them clean. Would usually take hours to clean 3-4 rifles. Now it's down to 15-30 minutes. Great stuff. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
I've used Wipe Out for years, and routinely leave it in overnight, even longer, but the cleaning action is over in a few hours. It can get sludgy, but comes right out with any sort of cleaning solvent. As far as turning the gun 1/2 way through the cycle, I also questioned the foam settling, cleaning the bottom of the barrel squeaky clean, but not the top. So, I took a few rifles that had been foamed, and foamed them again: upside down. Nothing in there. Later bought a borescope, which verified the test. Wonderful product. To apply, I use a stoney point bore guide, which has a rubber nozzle, and seals at the chamber; poke the straw in, fill the barrel, and nothing comes back into the action. My only complaint with Wipe Out, is its rather slow working, and their "accelerant" is a total waste of time and money. It does smell good...kinda fruity... and might go good with vodka.
 
I have used the Outers for the last year and it makes short work of my fouling machine, aka .260 Remington. What used to take forever to clean is now two barrel full sparys with the foam and it's very clean. As you said the only downside is it is sticky and bothersome when it gets in the action.
 
Just a heads up, I would steer clear of "Hoppe's Elite Foaming Bore Cleaning Solvent" for now. They have a pump type application and a short tube that is in the lid of the container. The tube fits onto a square nozzle so you can see where this is going. the round piece of tube does not fit tightly on the square nozzle (Whoo'd uf thunk it!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif) and you get a mess at the pump because you can't build enough pressure to get it down the bore( just like many other foams and liquids it seeks the path of least resistance, again Who'd uf thunk it!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif). I expected better out is a company like Hoppe's.
I have another can of aerosol, not sure of the brand and it works great. I just started using this type of product but so far, I have been impressed. Easy, no more mess than traditional cleaning methods, and I can clean bores and do other things at the same time. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif -RKR
 
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"... I expected better out is a company like Hoppe's.



The original Hoppe's stuff (like #9) is real good - but Bushnell bought the company, and some of the "new" products are designed by bean counters, not chemists.

Bushnell is not high on my list of shooting product companies.


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Over the years, I've probably tried every wonder drug there is for cleaning bores. Three years ago, I bought a Hawkeye borescope, and finally learned what works, but more importantly, what doesn't. I now have a shelf full of cleaning products I'll never use again.

If you have the time to wait, nothing comes close to an overnight soak in WipeOut. In the case of an extremely copper fouled bore, a couple days (changing the solution out a couple times a day) may be required, but it will work. By heavily fouled, I'm talking like 400 fast rounds through a 6mm Rem.


If you don't have time to wait, KG-1 Carbon remover, followed by about 20 strokes with KG-2 Bore Restore will do the trick. If you have trouble locating KG products, they can be purchased online. Iosso bore paste will do in a pinch, but the KG-1 carbon remover has to be seen to believe it's effectivness.
 
I use a bore guide and don't have any problems with getting it in the action. The Outers is a good product. I used it in my 222 mag and it took the copper out in big flakes. I got a new barrel but still use the Outers from time to time.
 
I've had good luck with the Outers stuff thus far. Have gone through 2 cans now. For reasons unknown, I seem to be incapable of not making a mess with the Wipeout......
 
I have the Outers Foul-Out II system also, that I used to use on really heavily copper-fouled bores. WipeOut rendered it obsolete. You'll remove more copper overnight with WipeOut than you will in 3 days with the Foul Out system. And WipeOut's a whole lot easier to use.

Mike
 


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