Pa game comm. finally admits it....

Justin M

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Local news station finally got them to do it. They really ARE stocking coyotes. A coyote was killed in the black oak region of bedford county with an ear tag traced to an insurance company, and apparently the game commission stepped up to it. guy dad works with told me, if anyone else saw the story and knows more , please tell.
 
yeah kinda figured that out. Back in 1995 I had went to a seminar that the pgc put out about coyotes, and the comment came up about this. they said no. But one buddy I know said they where trading turkeys for em. not sure if that was true. Anyhow where bouts in pa are you located.
 
Which local news station? I know quite a few people that work for the PGC, none have ever heard of a coyote stocking program. No need for it.
 
I have heard stories from my uncles in the north of PA (DuBois and up) that back in the 80's the PGC imported several hundred timber rattlers to take care of turkey eggs. Wouldnt doubt the coyotes though... the WV DNR imported yotes in the early 90's to take care of some deer. (Been havin fun ever since)
 
I can't believe any story about some state game agency stocking coyotes. What next? How about stocking rats & mesquitos?
 
i agree with muskrat 100%, are you going to tell me next that every other state in the east has done the same. we have a very competent game commission and should thank our lucky stars that we have the opportunites we have here in PA to both hunt and trap the numbers of animals we do.
anyone that has taken the time to study the coyote should easily understand thier adaptablity and migration to the east.
silverfoxPA
 
Another coyote with an ear tag from out west was just shot in south central PA. The guy who shot it owns a bunch of property near the turnpike. On a different night he found a guy in a truck late at night with coyotes in the back. The guy was evasive about the coyotes when questioned.
 
GMAFB.....I suppose the guy in the pick-up with all the coyotes in the back had been anally probed by aliens too....
 
........WOW!!!!!! this is beginning to sound a lot like the stories that went around here, a few years ago, about the Missouri Dept. of Conservation.

One of the Jugheads that worked at a local Conservation Area, started the story that MDC was trading turkeys for timber rattlers. He did it as a joke, but it took off like wildfire!!!

From there it went that MDC was trading turkeys for tarantulas, ladybugs, armadilloes, ...you name it, they traded for it!!!!! :rolleyes: : /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif .

These stories are almost always repeated by the guy that saw Sasquatch, Elvis, or a Martian.

BTW, Missouri was the ONLY state that could have traded for timber rattlers. We traded off so many turkeys that we exhausted the nationwide supply of timber rattlers. :rolleyes:

GET REAL!!!!! Why would any Game Commission or Conservation Dept. import timber rattlers, coyotes, armadilloes, etc???

IF they need to reduce the number of game animals, they usually liberalize the number of game animals you can take, without resorting to "importing" non-native species.
 
Original post says that the tag was traced to an insurance company???? And then the PGC stepped up to it?? Sounds fishy to me too.

What did the insurance company sponsor the planting of 'yotes to reduce the deer herd or something?? I can see it now. The adopt a 'yote foundation.

I guess nowadays I wouldn't doubt anything that some of the DNR's would do. But, the tag coming back to the insurance company has me guessing.
 
I guess every state has it's own rumor mill, here in OK the rumor was they released mountain lions to thin the deer herd but of course the ODWC was sworn to secrecy complete with the secret hand shake and all.
 
I know I am out west where the demons came from so I thought I would offer up a thought. Could a more plausible explanation be that it was tagged for some study program
 
Could a more plausible explanation be that it was tagged for some study program
What a ridiculous suggestion... don't you know that ear tagging is only used on "secretly" stocked animals in top secret black ops shadow government stocking programs? Oh no, here come the black helicopters... RUN!!!!!
 
Don't joke guys. We here in idaho had wolves dumped on us by the us fish and wildlife service thank you very much /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif Now, I didn't oppose wolf reintroduction from a biological standpoint but the way they did it by dumping them on our fish and game and saying "you spend the money to keep them going but you can;t do anything to control them either" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif and the opposition that out of staters have to de listing them even though in two years their population has surpassed the fed recomendations for delisting /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
Here is a Press release that I found. Unless this is just another ploy, a tool of the Establishment, a lie, a.....you get the point.

Did the Game Commission release coyotes in Pennsylvania?
The eastern coyote's origin has been a topic of debate for some time. Some folks actually believe the agency has stocked coyotes in recent years to reduce deer numbers. Nothing could be further from the truth. Coyotes have been documented in Pennsylvania since late 1930s and '40s. How they got here, or whether they were here all along, is the missing link to the coyote story. Some biologists believe coyotes have always been a part of Pennsylvania's wildlife community. Others believe western coyotes migrated north into Canada, bred with gray wolves and the resulting hybrid moved south into New England and New York and, eventually, Pennsylvania. Another possibility is that coyotes held in captivity escaped or were set free.

Game Commission stocking stories began in the late '80s after a coyote pup ear-tagged by a wildlife conservation officer was shot by a deer hunter. The pup, which was fitted with a telemetry collar and bobcat ear tag (#0026), was trapped on a Greene County farm where coyotes were killing sheep. It was hoped the pup would lead the officer to its den. Within days, however, the young coyote couldn't be located with radio gear; it apparently had shaken its telemetry collar. The coyote, minus its collar, was shot a few months later. Stories began to spread that it bore a ear tag from a western state, and that at least 25 other coyotes had been released, given the tag's number. The rumors continue.

The Game Commission has never released out-of-state coyotes, or trapped and transferred coyotes, and won't in the future. We have, however, trapped, tagged and released Pennsylvania coyotes for research purposes in recent years. We've also liberalized hunting seasons. Coyotes can be hunted year-round with few exceptions and there are no bag limits. Our coyote population can handle this pressure because it's underutilized and very resilient.





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I heard next that they were bringing in a real live Sasquatch from Washington state.
Don't laugh, its true. My brothers, girlfriends,cousins, roomates mechanic saw it on the local news......Yuk,Yuk,Yuk
 
Originally posted by Justin M:
[qb]Local news station finally got them to do it. They really ARE stocking coyotes. A coyote was killed in the black oak region of bedford county with an ear tag traced to an insurance company, and apparently the game commission stepped up to it. guy dad works with told me, if anyone else saw the story and knows more , please tell.[/qb]
Justin, most, if not all news stations have their stories on their web page. Can you give us the link to the story? I would be interested in reading more about this.
 
Justin M,
Here in Ohio, the Ohio Insurance Commission puts a lot of "pressure" on our DNR for deer permits and more liberal seasons. This comes from their having to pay for all the cars that hit deer each year. :rolleyes:

I don't doubt your theory on an insurance company being involved, in some manner.

However, the budget for all the costs involved in such a project could be in the millions. Just the payroll for the people involved, unless they're DNR officers, could be some serious cash.

Think about the costs for trapping (trap costs, labor, ear tags), transportation (fuel and drivers) and food/water/care for the coyotes until they get where they're going. Even if they were released at night, someone would have or should have seen such an operation. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Even so.....it's possible. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Good hunting, Bowhunter57
 


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