looks like i'm between you guys. VA to the east, OH on the other side. most of the pasture in this area is mtn. pasture. 20-30 acre fields, rocks, trees, fence lines. i like to just "hunt" through the area, after the first trip you'll know where the holes & hogs are located. good practice shooting, offhand, prone you name it. got 12 one day with my 270 in 13 shots. had one crawl-off. when deer season came in i was confident with that rifle, and in decent shape too, from walking. i still enjoy shooting with a bipod and sandbags, lazy-mans way. that's why i have the 243 and 25-06.