Perfect AR for Calling Predators

Byron South

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I see lots of guys coming to AR platform for hunting these days. I think this is a good thing. Obviously I like these rifles a lot. But this was not always the case. I was no different than many of you here in that the AR platform was just not a rifle I felt was best suited for hunting. Once I became more acquainted with the platform I quickly realized that it had many of the attributes I was looking for in a hunting/calling rifle. It was first of all very accurate, reliable, sturdy, and dependable. The fact that it was semi-automatic was not lost on me either. I’ve had many instances prior to using the AR where this would have come in handy.

When I first went with the AR for my calling rifle I had no clue what I really wanted or needed. Being new to the design it was confusing trying to sift through all the different options. Then, several years later after sifting through all the options I was still left without exactly what I wanted. I even went the route of having a couple of custom rifles built to my specs.

During this time Remington joined the AR market and asked me to help them to spec the rifle out. They wanted to build the perfect predator hunting rifle. Of course I jumped at the opportunity and the result is the Remington R-15 Signature Edition. As many of you already know they build the R-15 rifles with the expertise and experience of Bushmaster and DPMS.

With the growing popularity of predator hunting and the diminishing stigma associated with the AR there are now many people coming to this platform. I see more and more guys here asking what rifle to choose, which barrel length, what accessories and so on. For what its worth, take it or leave it, I seriously doubt you could find a better suited rifle for predator hunting than the R-15. My preference is of course the “Signature Edition” R-15. Not because it has my name on it but because I honestly believe you can’t buy a better rifle more suited to calling predators. I’ve been using the signature rifle now for three years now and still wouldn’t change a thing about it. It has all the features I could ever want on a rifle and none that I don’t. It comes with a nice trigger, and with a barrel of what I feel is the perfect length and weight. There are plenty of other AR’s out there but none specked out like this rifle. They either have barrels that, IMO, are either too short (loud), to long (unwieldy) , or two heavy (burden to carry). Even if you don’t choose the “Signature” rifle, but rather the standard R-15 you still have many of the same features you would want rolled into a readily available rifle.

I’d be the last to diss custom rifles. I love custom rifles. I also have some good friends that build custom rifles. A couple of which, frequent this forum. These guys do some fantastic work. With this said I do believe that for the money/features you can’t go wrong with the R-15. In the accuracy department I’ve also never been disappointed in the R-15s I own or have seen. Without exception all shot very well. A custom rifle might get you ¼ or ½ inch groups, but don’t be surprised if you get very close to that with the R-15s. All I have seen will shoot around an inch or less with factory ammo they like and some will shoot with any custom gun going. That is more than good enough accuracy to shoot coyotes way out there.

Of course I’m sponsored by Remington but I don’t say these things because of that. I say these things because I believe this to good advice coming from lots of experience using ARs for hunting. For you guys that are looking to buy an AR for predator hunting it is my opinion there is no better choice than the R-15. I didn’t intend this to be an ad for the R-15. I simply wanted to share what I use and would recommend.

Good Hunting, and God Bless,

Byron
 
I agree-I think the 18" barrel is 'just right'. And yes I have used a 16" and a 20" too. Here are a couple of pix. TnTnTn


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I agree that the R-15 is a perfect calling rifle. It has the accuracy, barrel length, weight, forearm, stock. I would add a custom trigger however and I don't even own one but I sighted in my friends and was very impressed.
 
What is the weight of the R15? It is a sweet looking rig. And it's not an add if you really believe what you say, it's an honest opinion.

yh57
 
Let me say it again, I love mine! I got the CS and added a Geissle DMR and a Hogue grip.
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They'll shoot factory ammo too, you just have to experiment a little. The center target was shot on a clean barrel (40 gr vmax), the two shots on the left fouled the barrel and the point of impact shifted and she printed the next three. The target in the upper left was also a 5 shot group at 100 yds (50 gr vmax). These groups were shot with a RRA NM trigger in it, I just put the DMR in it and WOW! what a trigger. It makes this rifle even more of a joy to shoot.


 
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Thanks for the feedback guys. Glad you like your rifles.

Yotehunter57,

The weight of the 18" R-15s is about 6 3/4 pounds before scope and mounts.

By the way the "Signature Edition" R-15s comes with a fully adjustable 2 stage trigger which I like very much. It also has a nicer float tube and ergo grip.

Thanks again,

Good Hunting, and God Bless,

Byron
 
My 18" .223 weighs in at 8.4 lbs total (illuminated scope has some weight) for what you see below (except the magazine). I took the weight measurement with an electronic fish scale with no calibration work. See below the pic for a break down of weight on the rifle.

It has a Bushnell 4200 Elite 1.25-4 power scope mounted in a Larue LT-104. It also has a Timney 3lb trigger, ergo grip and a single ppoint sling attachment that may attribute to some weight. The only thing lighter I own would be a straight up M4 style upper with cheap collapsable stock but only by .3-.4 lbs.

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Some weight specs on this rifle;

Complete Rifle as listed = 8.4 lbs
Lower only = 2.6 lbs
Naked Rifle (no scope, mounts or mag) = 6.8 lbs
Upper only with BCG = 4.3 lbs
NOTE: If you do the math you'll observe there is some variability in my scale so take the weights for what they are worth (+- 0.2 lbs I would say).

Loads for my gun have been finicky. It likes 60 grain vmax bullets and benchmark and I usually get 3/4 to 1". It won't group good hot and likes to be clean.

For carrying all day this is my go-to. When funds allow, a custom 6x45 will be on order and the requirement (if possible or I won't do it for a carrying/calling gun) will be a complete upper to weigh in at 4.3 lbs or less.

You can't beat an R-15 for the price, weight and decent accuracy. I bought mine when they were going for closer to $900. My camo is flaking off on certain areas although I really don't care. I may have it sandblasted and painted white since I primarly use it in the winter.

 
I like mine too. It's accurate, and easy to carry all day, with the fluted barrel, and lighter contour. I have been seriously thinking of going to a 6mm, either a 6x45 or a 6 WOA.
 
The 18" R-15 might be the perfect AR for calling predators, but it is definitely the best gun I've used for carrying in the woods. It's light, quick to pull on target, easy to get through the brush, and works well on many critters.

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This gun is on my very short list of guns that won't be traded in for a new model.
 
To heck with the rifle, I'm likin' that Jeep!

Most of those pics aren't San Antonio - where do you do your calling? Looks a lot like my neck of the woods (sans saguaros).
 
Close but I prefer a rifle length forearm think dissipator, They might look a little funky with a shorter barrel but provide greater distance between the buttstock and the bipod/shooting stick.
 
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Originally Posted By: DesertRamTo heck with the rifle, I'm likin' that Jeep!

Most of those pics aren't San Antonio - where do you do your calling? Looks a lot like my neck of the woods (sans saguaros).

All but the pigs were shot in arizona. mostly south of phoenix. That cat was a real nice kitty to say the least and i do appreciate the comments. Thank you all!
(more to come shortly... i hope)
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This one's just purely "showing-off" now, but here ya go man. A better look at the rig.

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I like seeing all these pics and reading about those ARs. I'm pretty new to coyote hunting and have been using my Remington Model 721 that I use for deer. Far from a coyote gun, but will kill them all the same. It's a VERY accurate gun. With that said, I've been looking at ARs and plan to get one in the future. I consider a AR a pretty major investment. Been lookin' at that Remington though and these pics and comments make it a easier choice.


Arden
 
Quote:Been lookin' at that Remington though and these pics and comments make it a easier choice.


You really can't go wrong with that AR for predator hunting. I built mine up before Remington came out with it, but if I was doing it over I'd have gotten one.
 
It'll be a while before I can get one, but I've been eye ballin' it
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! LOL The Remington Model 721 I have is my dad's old deer rifle. He's hunted a lot with it and has shot a lot of deer. It's a VERY accurate gun and I love it. My dad also has a couple Remington shotguns. Same deal! They've seen a lot of use, have a lot of stories that go with them; and they're going as strong as the day he got them. Neither him or I have bought a new Remington; but I'd like to think they're still makin' guns that'll last like ours have. So I guess you can say I'm a Remington fan
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! LOL

Thanks for the encouragement! hahahaha:)


Arden
 
Well, Remington doesn't actually build the R-15, it's a Bushmaster with a Remington logo.

They're both owned by the same parent corporation, so that's not really much of a concern.

But Remington isn't running an AR-15 manufacturing facility that they built just to offer this line, it's a Bushmaster built to Remington's specs.
 
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