i have to agree that threats generally send them running and barking the whole way home in my experience. and i dont use more than howls barks and whinning much. i have no experience with group yips. i almost always end up squeking before i shoot to. i learned that trick on this site. it works wonders. my problem with the phantom is this......i dont know what that noise is supposed to be. is it a group howl???? that seems way to aggressive to me. all the sequences are to short, you know what i mean. they sound un-natural after calling for 1/2 hour to an hour.
i do need a decoy. do you guys put scent on decoys??? what do you put on it??? maybe deer scent that i use to hunt the rut for muleys????
and unlike most of the posts i read here,..some of my dogs dont come in for 45 minutes. then others might appear in 45 seconds, so i stay for about ahn hour unless its one of my "known to be way productive spots".