Pulsar XP50 Trail _ Sighting in every time b4 going out!!

Mr. Poppadopalis

Mr. Poppadopalis

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Having continuous issues with this Pulsar!

Sent it back to Pulsar to see if they can fix it, 3 inches right and 2 inches high, 2 inches left and 3 inches high. Chang es every time i take the gun out!!


Anybody else have the same issues??

Pulsar says if it is an issue that cannot be remedied they will swap it out with a Helton, [beeep] NO! I have spoken with the dealer I purchased it from and they have told me to argue for the new XP50 LRF Trail,
 
Been there, done that, it really sucks. I'd suggest getting a new replacement from the dealer, selling it and go with a different brand.
 
I would advise you to replace the Pulsar Trail XP50 with the new Pulsar Trail 2 XP50 LRF model which has the new highly sensitive sensor with NETD
 
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Ernest gives good advice but I believe Pulsars failing to hold zero involve factors beyond just the material their scopes are made of. The Thermion I owned shifted, less than the Trails but it still moved. Call it algorithms or whatever, it didn't always hit where it was aimed which made it a very expensive paper weight. The lrf on the Trails work great but aren't very useful when the poi is variable.
 
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Great reply P&Y !
You see ... we probably have a different view. But we have in common a great spirit of observation. I am just a theorist of thermal devices and I study them by analyzing, with extreme fussiness, even the smallest and apparently insignificant technical detail. You are a professional hunter who observes the answers with extreme attention, in all possible situations, in the practical use of thermal devices. In the end, I tell you the truth, even going against my own scientific mentality, I trust your judgments and your practical advice much more.

So I ask you ... If you had to choose one of these 2 devices, which one would you recommend? Translating into a more specific request: in your opinion it preserves the POI better .... the Trail 2 XP50 or the Thermion XP50?
 
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Ernest, I have read previous information you have shared and are very knowledgeable in these devices, much more than me. I appreciate you contributions.

If I had to choose between a Thermion and Trail 2 hoping to hold zero, I would chose the Thermion based on experience. I will say I never put my Trail 2 on a rifle because I was exhausted with Pulsar. I just know the Thermion held poi much better than the Trails I had.

I think it's also important to note the temperatures I hunt in can get to the bottom of the operating range. I noticed the colder it was, the more the poi moved.
 
Our hunting group has had so many issues with Pulsar holding a zero it has cost countless coyotes. My Trail XQ50 is the only one that had been solid.

Contacting Pulsar they just kept saying that the new software update would fix it. Then it would happen again... After multiple times of this happening we have sold a few of them off.

Pretty frustrating.

Every other brand I have hunted with has has much better luck holding zeros, FLIR, Nvision, Trij, etc.

Currently saving up to by a super hogster.
 
My partner and I each have one of the original trail xp50s he's on his second scope and I'm on my third scope but they are finally holding zero. I just be sure to not sign in with any sunlight on the gun it seems that warms it up more so than anything.
 
Okay gents!!


Thank you very much.......

Pulsar receive the scope today so we will see what they feel the problem is.

In the Interim I will be using a different AR setup with the IR Hunter Mark3
 
I'm on my third Trail XP50. Two others had poi shift and were sent back. This third one has held a good zero for almost a year but I check it every other week or so. Just about everyone around here with a Trail has had poi shift issues. Happy to say the Pulsar guys in Mansfield Texas have been Johnny On The Spot with their customer service.
 
Pulsar has had some issues but has stood behind there products 100% as far as I know. Many times they upgrade someone if that product is no longer produced. I had a POI issue with one Trail XP50 in one of the original ones and they replaced it and had no issues with that till I sold it to upgrade to Trail XP50 LRF. It has been solid. Adjusted it once slightly when the rifle rolled endwise from butt on to scope. Bering Optics is making good inroads in the thermal market and I have the R35 as a backup 2nd scope for when my sons hunt with me. It is an excellent scope for the money. And hearing nothing but good reviews on the new Super Hogster and the Phenom. IMO, I still give the edge to Pulsar. Their long life replaceable battery packs (although there are options with external packs or rechargeable batteries), PIP that keeps the main screen in base magnification while you can put PIP in whatever mag. you want (BO's base magnifies with the small screen). That larger FOV in base mag. allows quicker finding of other targets or just trying to pick up targets if they are disappearing over terrain or cover. And I also find the LRF a very valuable feature when shooting with thermal. I'm using it more all the time. BO's scope is about 1/2 of Pulsars though which is going to be a big factor for many and I have no problem understanding this. I think all of these things have been pointed out before but I thought I'd take some time and restate these along with my opinion also. Good luck.
 
What does the acronym BO mean?
Of course, the Pulsar Trail 2 XQ50 LRF rechargeable battery has a long life and is versatile and convenient to replace. It is the same as the Helion 2 XP50 and Accolade 2 XP50 LRF.
 
Case-nh your considerations are very valid and objective. From a quality / price point of view, perhaps the Super Hogster choice is the best possible. But, taking into account that the SH will be released by Bering Optics Europe maybe in 6 months if all goes well ..... then for us Italian hunters, who do not want to wait, the only possible choice (but, as you wrote well, it's still a excellent choice) is the Pulsar Trail 2 XQ50 lrf or the Thermion XP50, at an almost equivalent cost, under the conditions indicated in my previous post .....

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/for...712#Post3260712

I think my hunter friend, at about the same actual price paid, will eventually follow P&Y's advice and buy the Thermion XP50, because it is more versatile, has a wider FOV and better preserves the POI.
Even if it is really a shame not to have the Trail rangefinder .... Here in Italy we say: "You can't have a drunk wife and a the barrel full of wine ...."
 
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I had the same issue with my Trail XP50. My buddies have had problems as well. I sent to Pulsar and they acknowledged the issue and repaired it. I’m using it as a scanner now, but the couple times I’ve thrown it on a rifle to test, it held zero. They have good features and the picture is great, but it’s really hard to trust equipment that has let you down in the past.
 
Today I wanted to give my dear friend the night hunter a great pleasure. I drove 205 miles, at the tiring speed of only 60 - 65 miles per hour, in my old Mitsubishi Pajero (which has a cracked head and miraculously repaired with your very good American additive, copper crystal gel. ...) to buy the thermal device that you see better in the second photograph ....
As you can see, in the end, my friend followed the great tips from P&Y and case-nh .....

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Originally Posted By: smokemDo the trijicon mark series experience any of these problems?

I have owned 6 different Trijicon units and never had any issues with the scopes holding zero.
 


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