My 2 cents here... honda all the way. find a forman 400 or 350 4x4. They are some of the best, most reliable atvs out there. The dealer where i buy my motocross and atv stuff recently had a guy come in with 33,000 miles on his 350 fourman. Thats hay hauling, working miles. he was hacked that honda quit making them. he bought a 450s. I am not a polaris guy at all. Have heard to many reliability horror stories. If you cant find a clean honda i have some buddies that use artic cat 300s and love them. 15 gears, in and out 4x4, independant rear suspension. You might give them a look. Good luck!