Question for D-tech - 6.5 Grendel?

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esmith

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First off I am in no way trying to push or impatient, I know he is slammed busy with orders. So I thought some of you may know the answer as well.

Looking at his website and list of calibers, I don't see 6.5 Grendel listed as an offered caliber. So, main question, does he offer 6.5 Grendel and maybe it just isn't listed?

If not, I'm not familiar with many of his caliber offerings. Is there one there that compares in performance and availability of reloading components to the 6.5 grendel? I'm not stuck on the caliber, but I do like some of its attributes.

I need a complete upper, not a terribly heavy barrel but maybe a little heavier than a lightweight bbl.

What would you folks go for as such? I sent him an email, but realizing he is probably now more busy than ever, understand it may be tough to reply to all his requests quickly. I'd prefer he builds good guns anyway!

Cheers!
 
Be careful here. The Grendel and .264lbc shoot the same ammo but are not identical. You'll be OK as long as you don't mix Grendel bolts with lbc barrel or vice versa. AA uses a bolt with a face depth about .010 deeper than an lbc. If you try to use G bolt with an lbc barrel you'll have excessive headspace issues. If you try to use an lbc bolt with G barrel the bolt won't (or shouldn't) close.

It should be no problem with an upper built by someone like Mike.
 
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greater. Having made that connection I can do some more reading.

So there are no differences at all between the Grendel case and the. 264 case? Even though the chamber is? Seems odd but sounds good to me.

(I mean fewer differences than SAAMI 5.56 and. 223?). Couldn't resist.
 
Actually, there are a number of differences in the chambers. The important one is the way they headspace. The cases and loading data are, for all intents and purposes, the same. Fortunately, there's no milsurp ammo out there to confuse things.
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I'm not that picky as long as when I buy brass one is as good as the other and so on. Seems components are out there and this is about the longest range you can stuff into an ar-15 lower and magazine. I'm definitely no wildcat guy.
 
You will love the 264LBC/Grendel. Real easy to get accurate loads for. Every load I've tried in mine shoots well. Some better than other but all sub moa.
 
Originally Posted By: RetooferabYou will love the 264LBC/Grendel. Real easy to get accurate loads for. Every load I've tried in mine shoots well. Some better than other but all sub moa.

+1. You'll love it.
 
Originally Posted By: KlrDrvrOriginally Posted By: RetooferabYou will love the 264LBC/Grendel. Real easy to get accurate loads for. Every load I've tried in mine shoots well. Some better than other but all sub moa.

+1. You'll love it.


Another +1 for the Grendel. Like already stated.. Really easy to get it to shoot accurately no matter what bullet you try.
 
Looking forward to it for sure.

Wondering in light of the current circus whether it would be wise to begin accumulating components down the road instead of right now though.

D-tech's backlog will work in my favor anyway, my fun money budget will be ready to rock about the time its my turn in his manufacturing line.
 
Well, maybe it will work too well. Guess I'm far from the only one interested in ordering an upper.

Have tried the past two weeks, each monday and thursday during the hours listed on his website to get through and speak with D-Tech. No such luck.

Has anyone had luck reaching him by phone lately?
 
Before you get too excited, here's what Mike posted this morning in the thread about D-Tech wait time:

"Les Bear has cut off the sale of parts, so I am now scrambling for .264 parts. I will be removing the .264 LBC from my line-up because of it."

You might want to read that thread. He's also been sick with the flu bug that's going around, so he's a little more behind than usual...

Just sayin'. I got no dog in that particular fight (as the saying goes) either way...
 
Originally Posted By: moonshine44Before you get too excited, here's what Mike posted this morning in the thread about D-Tech wait time:

"Les Bear has cut off the sale of parts, so I am now scrambling for .264 parts. I will be removing the .264 LBC from my line-up because of it."

You might want to read that thread. He's also been sick with the flu bug that's going around, so he's a little more behind than usual...

Just sayin'. I got no dog in that particular fight (as the saying goes) either way...

I don't think that made me any more excited anyway
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May have to try another maker, but sort of had my heart set on a D-tech. Nuts.
 
Originally Posted By: moonshine44Sorry...

On the other hand, you might want to keep trying. He may have enough stuff left to build you one...

No worries! Mike is swamped, no way around it. Sent him a PM with an offer to order contingent on his parts situation.

Might make a good Christmas 2013 present!
 
I spoke with Mike last Tuesday. I've been been waiting for my
264 LBC since April. Upper is nearing completion. I ordered
2 bolts for the rifle because of reading about possible Lug
failures in this caliber. (Usually caused by over pressure)
Mike told me that at this time his suppliers will not sell bolts or parts (Les Baer) only whole rifles. He told me that LB bolts headspace at .132 and that other bolts headspace at .136 (Alexander ARms) 223 bolts headspace at .125. hence the problem. A great source of info on the 6.5 grendel can be found at 6.5 Grendel forum. Last night the moderator for the ar part of that forum told me that there is no .132 headspace ??? He said there was .125 for 223 ,762X39 (type 1 or 2)?? or Alexander Arms .136. He said and may be wrong that Les Baer worked with Bill Alexander , and when he let and started producing his 264 LB AR he used the same bolt and headspace. According to him either bolt could be headspaced and used. I would like to get 2 bolts for my upper, but all so far will not sell just the bolts. Will check with Mike to see if he agree's with the moderator.
Good Luck with your project.
Tom
 
The TYPE I chamber, the orginal uses a .125 bolt. The same as a 7.62X39. The Grendels, TYPE II ala AA, are .136. Of course I don't know anything since I have both size chambers and bolts.

I have never seen an ADVERTISED .132 bolt.

Greg
 
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Greg:

Thanks for the info about Type 1 and Type 2 grendel bolts,
there is a web site competition Shooter who sell ar bolt for 6.5 caliber . I'm trying to get in contact with them to see if they will work in the LBC 264 . One is for .125 the other .136. I also saw a couple of AA bolts on gun broker but they were going for 200 +++ (bolt and carrier 400) Mike has one bolt for me , but I was looking for a second.
Thanks again

Tom
 
Originally Posted By: Tom1886I spoke with Mike last Tuesday. I've been been waiting for my
264 LBC since April. Upper is nearing completion. I ordered
2 bolts for the rifle because of reading about possible Lug
failures in this caliber. (Usually caused by over pressure)
Mike told me that at this time his suppliers will not sell bolts or parts (Les Baer) only whole rifles. He told me that LB bolts headspace at .132 and that other bolts headspace at .136 (Alexander ARms) 223 bolts headspace at .125. hence the problem. A great source of info on the 6.5 grendel can be found at 6.5 Grendel forum. Last night the moderator for the ar part of that forum told me that there is no .132 headspace ??? He said there was .125 for 223 ,762X39 (type 1 or 2)?? or Alexander Arms .136. He said and may be wrong that Les Baer worked with Bill Alexander , and when he let and started producing his 264 LB AR he used the same bolt and headspace. According to him either bolt could be headspaced and used. I would like to get 2 bolts for my upper, but all so far will not sell just the bolts. Will check with Mike to see if he agree's with the moderator.
Good Luck with your project.
Tom

Now there is some information that I was not aware of. At this point, trying to get through to D-tech seems like an uphill battle, through no fault of Dtech's. My project, at this point has ground to a halt with not much hope of completion. I'm one of the pity party who has tried calling for over a month, always the same recording.

Now looking at the possibility of an AR10. Just glad I haven't sunk money into reloading components and magazines at this point. We'll see which happens first, Dtech getting freed up or AR10's being available on the market.

Sincerely,
Tail between legs, dragging a stripped lower behind him...
 
There are other ways to get a 6.5 G.I got an upper from Precision Firearms and put it together on my lower. Truly an awesome shooter.

I know they are backed up too, who isn't, but they might be worth a try. http://www.precisionfirearms.com/

BTW, in an extremely weak moment I sold the rifle two weeks ago to a fellow member here. I'm already starting to feel the pain. Oh well, I can build another.
 


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