Got a question, what would be a good quiet gun to use for coyote hunting at about 150 yards at night. I sometimes hunt in a field behind my parents house and they have some nieghbors in the area and I want to be somewhat respectful of them. I'm using an AK-47 (kill as may as possible at a time) and it is not the quietest thing to shoot. any info would be helpful, just need something bigger than a .22. thanks - weazel
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VarmintSniper308
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What about a .22mag? Be good up tp 100yrds.
Mike
Mike
yea, I was thinking of a .22 mag, I just didn't know how far you could trust it for a kill. I was also thinking of a .223 or .22-250. Are they easy to find in a semi-auto and how much louder are they than, say, a .22 long rifle? I don't want too much gun just for coyotes but I don't want to risk injury to one without killing it quickly, ya understand what I mean?? Weight is another issue as well, I really don't want to carry a "canon" across 300 acres. Thanks for you reply, it is appricated. - Weazel
Michael J. McCasland
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Weasel - The quiet gun question comes up every once and a while. Usually in situations like you discribe. Since we can generally cannot use silencers on our weapons to hunt with, a quieting device is out of the question. With that aside there are some muzzle breaks that have the ability to redirect and disperse sound along with the spent gas. I don't know which ones these are but I've heard about then. They generally take the pattern of a tank muzzle break.
Lets place this option asside. Some priciples need to be understood. Long barrels are quieter that short barrels. Big cartridges are londer than small ones. So to have a rifle be as quiet as possible you need to be shooting the smallest cartridge that can get the job done through the longest practicle barrel. The little guys that we are talking about are one of the wildcat .17's, 22 hornet, 22 K-hornet (an improved 22 hornet), 221 fireball (this would be my choice in a quiet effective round, but an expereinced reloader option only), 222Rem and 223Rem. You've severely limited your choices if you insist on having a semi-automatic. In the practical semi-automatic arena you are basicly limited to the AR type rifles in 223. Another thing comes to mind. 7.62x39. These are small, accurate and fairly quiet. But again limited in supply if you want a semi-auto.
I have a predjudice toward a bolt action rifle if you are trying to keep as many options open as possible. Go for the bolt and make every shot count. Sprayin' and playin' is a great deal of fun, but do you really need it for coyotes?
I've got a friend that is working with just the rifle for your application. It is truely a rifle experts round and right out of the box it is scarry quiet. He took a 700 action, screwed on a fairly short 30 cal. douglas barrel in a fast twist and chambered it for a variation of a 30 whisper. He loads 200 or so grain bullets and tinny amounts of powder in a much shortened 223 case and punches little groups. I think that if you were quick you could catch the bullet in flight. Now theres a quiet round and I have no doubt that it will kill coyotes.
Michael
Lets place this option asside. Some priciples need to be understood. Long barrels are quieter that short barrels. Big cartridges are londer than small ones. So to have a rifle be as quiet as possible you need to be shooting the smallest cartridge that can get the job done through the longest practicle barrel. The little guys that we are talking about are one of the wildcat .17's, 22 hornet, 22 K-hornet (an improved 22 hornet), 221 fireball (this would be my choice in a quiet effective round, but an expereinced reloader option only), 222Rem and 223Rem. You've severely limited your choices if you insist on having a semi-automatic. In the practical semi-automatic arena you are basicly limited to the AR type rifles in 223. Another thing comes to mind. 7.62x39. These are small, accurate and fairly quiet. But again limited in supply if you want a semi-auto.
I have a predjudice toward a bolt action rifle if you are trying to keep as many options open as possible. Go for the bolt and make every shot count. Sprayin' and playin' is a great deal of fun, but do you really need it for coyotes?
I've got a friend that is working with just the rifle for your application. It is truely a rifle experts round and right out of the box it is scarry quiet. He took a 700 action, screwed on a fairly short 30 cal. douglas barrel in a fast twist and chambered it for a variation of a 30 whisper. He loads 200 or so grain bullets and tinny amounts of powder in a much shortened 223 case and punches little groups. I think that if you were quick you could catch the bullet in flight. Now theres a quiet round and I have no doubt that it will kill coyotes.
Michael
JP Enterprises makes what you describe.Originally posted by Michael J. McCasland:
[qb]Weasel - ... With that aside there are some muzzle breaks that have the ability to redirect and disperse sound along with the spent gas. I don't know which ones these are but I've heard about then. They generally take the pattern of a tank muzzle break .
Michael[/qb]
The drawback to Muzzle Brakes are that they are much louder to the shooter's ear (or anyone standing around him/her) from "bang" to "BOOM"
Michael J. McCasland
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What Rob says is true. Basicly you take the sound hit before it has the oppertunity to travel very far. From what I understand you hear the BOOM, those down range hear a pop ot nothing at all.
Michael
Michael
yotehunter6
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The hornet has my vote, it is effective in that range and it isnt very loud to begin with.