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I would think they would work just fine. Never tried them myself. Just use the rcbs holders and keep turning my dies down and keep checking the measurement with my hornady AOL measurement kit. Never measured shoulder bump till I had misfires in in my 35 rem 336. Now I measure all my fired brass in all my calibers and bumb the shoulders. I use to just follow the rcbs directions and turn down the die without measuring. Think they suggest 1 1/4 down from flush. I still shot 1 hole groups doing so.