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Thanks Jim! I bought some federal primers.I recon we will just load 100 rounds tonite and don't crimp em.I ordered diffent rings made by Warne in the Tactical Aluminum but they are back ordered for at least another week so no testing for awhile.I chose these cause my set up with a riser and warne metal rings I felt weighed too much.I want my set up to be as light as I can for a calling rifle. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Bill