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I start at or close to lands in rifle, or at max lengle I can still use my box magazine at. Then I load 1 each from mid range to 1 grain over max. I shoot one at a time giving time to cool back to ambient temp there about. I shoot till I see pressure signs. Then that's my max load. I load these in 2 tenths charge ( 35.0-35.2-35.4). Then I'll start loading 3 each in same increments from mid charge to my max. I usually find my accurate load near max or above book max in all my rifles, I'll also find one under max. Then verify loads that I choose. If I want to adjust seating depth I do it with theist accurate charges I found. seat IN the case 5-10 thousands at a time.