I have a old ruger 77 in 6mm, I will likely die with it, I purchased a lvsf earlier this year in 223, Loved the rifle, it was light, fast, and good looking, But I had more problems with it than you can shake a stick at. I had put a new trigger in it, had to do some stock clearence work, still it didnt want to shoot consistant 1" groups, reloads or factory! It needed bedded, I wasnt going to put another red cent into it, I got rid of it for a micro hunter that shoots just as good right out of the box, It may be awhile before I buy another Remmy, You might want to look at the Tikka line, I like that T-3, I hear they shoot too.