fastoutlaw69
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Hey guys, I been on here for a while, just as a lurker though. I'm pretty sure this is my first post. I'm sorry it's going be a fairly long post but the more info I can give the better the help I may be able to get. I'm out of answers on this project I had going and don't really know what's going on with it.
Mods, I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this post it's a gun and maybe a reloading issue. Please feel free to move it as you see fit.
First, I got a Remington 700 SPS Varmint with the 26 inch heavy barrel for Christmas. I kinda knew I was getting it so I ordered some goodies for it. B&C stock, Timney Trigger, Wyatt's Det Mag, Leupold VX 3 4x14x40. It shot several loads well, factory and reloads.
I decided to take the rifle and have the barrel cut down to 20 inches and recrowned. After I did it, I put together 6 loads between 50 and 69 grains.
After it was all said and done at 100 yards the rifle liked a 50 grain Hornady V-Max and a 55 grain Nosler Varmageddon. It shot a 0.64 inch group with the Hornady and a 0.82 inch group with the Noslers.
Then I take another 55 grain Nosler Varmageddon load we made for a rifle my brother has and took a few of them out and shot a group or two and bingo!! 0.49 at a 100. I figured that to be the best load at the time and made 50 rounds to the same specs.
Here's where the problems start. I make 50 rounds that night, get up the next day and take the gun out to shoot it a few more times and it won't shoot a group inside 3 inches with nothing we have in the house. It shoots 3 to 4 inch groups high, low, left and right.
I bring the gun in and clean it up, start to ponder on it for a while and think, maybe its the scope (Leupold VX 3 4x14x40). So the next day I take a known scope off of another Rem 700 223 (Zeiss Conquest 3x9x40) and put on the rifle and its more of the same 3 to 4 inch groups all over the paper, I take scope I think is bad and put it on the 223 and it shoots tight group after tight group (half inch or better).
At this point I'm just kind of fed up with it and take it in the house for the night and clean it up. The next day I take it out and fire a 3 round group and it groups [beeep] near perfect with 3 rounds under an inch. At this point I have no clue what to do, I shoot a few more groups and I'm back to 3 to 4 inch groups all over the paper again.
I head back in the house to clean it up, I'm just pissed at this point and done with it, I sold my buddy the B&C stock, my brother the trigger and Magazine conversion. I put it back in an SPS Hogue stock with the hinged floor plate and put the factory trigger back in it.
Today my buddy and brother were back at the house to shoot and make some bullets(and some jokes). So as the day goes on and a bunch of jokes from my brother and friend about my "sniper rifle" and a few laughs. I take my Rem 223 and shoot a nice tight 3 round group on a shoot-n-see target. Just out of curiosity I get the 22-250 out and shoot 4 rounds, all 4 rounds end up inside the 223 group I had just shot, so here we have 7 rounds packed in tight. I'm sitting there confused, poopie faced, and kind of laughing all at the same time. So I head back in and grab 3 more rounds. Fire those 3 and yep, you guessed it. 3 to 4 inch group high and right.
I'm sorry for such a long first post and the format, I figured since there was so much info it would be easier to read this way. I've really only been coyote hunting for about a year, and my experience with bolt guns came with picking up the coyote hunting. Just about all of my hunting experience is with a bow, and my gun experience is from the Army. Where I live we aren't exactly covered up with gunsmiths or folks that can do much work on guns without having to send it off. Anyway thank you all for any help you could provide and it will be greatly appreciated.
Mods, I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this post it's a gun and maybe a reloading issue. Please feel free to move it as you see fit.
First, I got a Remington 700 SPS Varmint with the 26 inch heavy barrel for Christmas. I kinda knew I was getting it so I ordered some goodies for it. B&C stock, Timney Trigger, Wyatt's Det Mag, Leupold VX 3 4x14x40. It shot several loads well, factory and reloads.
I decided to take the rifle and have the barrel cut down to 20 inches and recrowned. After I did it, I put together 6 loads between 50 and 69 grains.
After it was all said and done at 100 yards the rifle liked a 50 grain Hornady V-Max and a 55 grain Nosler Varmageddon. It shot a 0.64 inch group with the Hornady and a 0.82 inch group with the Noslers.
Then I take another 55 grain Nosler Varmageddon load we made for a rifle my brother has and took a few of them out and shot a group or two and bingo!! 0.49 at a 100. I figured that to be the best load at the time and made 50 rounds to the same specs.
Here's where the problems start. I make 50 rounds that night, get up the next day and take the gun out to shoot it a few more times and it won't shoot a group inside 3 inches with nothing we have in the house. It shoots 3 to 4 inch groups high, low, left and right.
I bring the gun in and clean it up, start to ponder on it for a while and think, maybe its the scope (Leupold VX 3 4x14x40). So the next day I take a known scope off of another Rem 700 223 (Zeiss Conquest 3x9x40) and put on the rifle and its more of the same 3 to 4 inch groups all over the paper, I take scope I think is bad and put it on the 223 and it shoots tight group after tight group (half inch or better).
At this point I'm just kind of fed up with it and take it in the house for the night and clean it up. The next day I take it out and fire a 3 round group and it groups [beeep] near perfect with 3 rounds under an inch. At this point I have no clue what to do, I shoot a few more groups and I'm back to 3 to 4 inch groups all over the paper again.
I head back in the house to clean it up, I'm just pissed at this point and done with it, I sold my buddy the B&C stock, my brother the trigger and Magazine conversion. I put it back in an SPS Hogue stock with the hinged floor plate and put the factory trigger back in it.
Today my buddy and brother were back at the house to shoot and make some bullets(and some jokes). So as the day goes on and a bunch of jokes from my brother and friend about my "sniper rifle" and a few laughs. I take my Rem 223 and shoot a nice tight 3 round group on a shoot-n-see target. Just out of curiosity I get the 22-250 out and shoot 4 rounds, all 4 rounds end up inside the 223 group I had just shot, so here we have 7 rounds packed in tight. I'm sitting there confused, poopie faced, and kind of laughing all at the same time. So I head back in and grab 3 more rounds. Fire those 3 and yep, you guessed it. 3 to 4 inch group high and right.
I'm sorry for such a long first post and the format, I figured since there was so much info it would be easier to read this way. I've really only been coyote hunting for about a year, and my experience with bolt guns came with picking up the coyote hunting. Just about all of my hunting experience is with a bow, and my gun experience is from the Army. Where I live we aren't exactly covered up with gunsmiths or folks that can do much work on guns without having to send it off. Anyway thank you all for any help you could provide and it will be greatly appreciated.
