Remington SPR94 12/223 Combo

I have used alot nicer combo guns than the Russian made Remington, and I don't think they do the job of a good shotgun or rifle. They tend to be heavy, have poor balance for wing shooting, and the sights rarely work well for both barrels. The build quality is not that great as well.
 
I use a combo gun on most of my hunts. I have a tikka 12/222 this is a great shooting , easy to carry and has a good balance. I had one of the remingtons it shot very good even with a 12 pound trigger. I took it to 2 different gunsmiths to try a have the triggers worked with no luck from either one. Not to say the triggers can't be adjusted by someone else. Other remingtons I have checked did not have as bad triggers-------so check before you buy. I put a carlsons turkey choke tube in it that made a big improvement on the pattern. The tikka,valmet and savage 2400 are really nice guns but demand a premium price. Let us know what you pick.
 
Greetings,

The end of October, 2008 I picked up a used Savage Model 24, in .223 Rem/12 Ga. It came with an inexpensive 3-9 x 40 scope and although the .223 barrel was very accurate, the 12 Ga barrel shot to a different location. I bought a set of raised rings so I could use the standard rifle sights. I now use these for the shotgun barrel and have added a couple new choke tubes, one of which is rifled for slugs.

I took a large North Idaho male coyote with a Lyman slug in November, at about 40-45 yards. Right now the snow is so deep that you can only drive where it's plowed and the only place to park is in front of a store. Not so good for coyote hunting! Maybe when some of this snow is gone I'll be able to tell you that the .223 barrel has proven successful as well.

Have shot nearly 50 shotgun slugs through it and the scope has not come loose or lost it's zero for the rifle barrel. This set up makes a great combo for different predator hunting situations. No, it's not something for fine wing shooting and it doesn't have a target trigger, but that's not what I got it for.

If you are lucky enough to find one at a reasonable price and don't want it yourself, please let me know. I'm currently looking for one in .30-30 Win/12 Ga. It's a great combo and it's sad that Savage discontinued it.

Hold Center & Squeeze,

Remington Raider
 
I had one in 12/223, and it was ectremely accurate. It is heavy, but thats to be expected. My biggest fault was the scope mount, I couldnt find rings to fit correctly on the base that is attached to the gun (it is 11mm, I think). When you added the scope, it was just too much for what I wanted. Its not sexy, but mine was a work horse type gun.
 
It just seems that carrying (1) 8/9 pound gun would be easier than carrying (2) shotgun/rifle. But hunting all day, either scenario will wear you out.

I'm taking my time on deciding which action/caliber/maker of gun to choose. As a beginner, I'll start with my 308 BLR with managed recoil rounds, and later the 110 vmax. These days I am preferring a light rifle with better than MOA accuracy, balance, and leaning toward autos ... although there are not any autos to choose from that are comfortable, accurate, and traditional in the fur friendly .224 - .17 calibers. Wish one of the manufacturers would surprise us this year!

Thank you for your observations!
 
In answering your question about the Remington combo. I think the rifle shotgun combinations are the cats meow for hunting. This gun will get em in close or reach out and touch em. OK a semi auto is great for doubles. But for me I have found that with only having a single shot, you make that one shot really count. I've used a 22mag/20 ga for years on small game and doves. The gun weighs about 8 pounds without the scope and is really solid and well put together. Like a Russian tank (g) The dual triggers are not hard to get used to. They are are a little stiff but may loosen up after being broken in.

So here's my view and experience on these rifle shotgun combinations.

I have two Russian Baikal combos. One is a 30-06/12 Ga and the other is a 223/12 Ga. (These are the same as the one your asking about and are now imported by Remington under the Sparta name.)

I also have two Savage 24s, one is a 22 Mag/20 Ga and the second one is a Savage 24F but is a 223/12 Ga. (The Savage 24F, 223/12 Ga is for sale on GunBroker if your interested). Why? cause I don't need two 223/12 Ga combos.

The Russian guns have an adjustment that can be adjusted to make the rifle's point of impact to shoot in or closer to the middle of the shotgun pattern. There is an adjustment screw between the barrels. (Look closely right above the end of the forearm stock) The Savage guns do not have that adjustment and if a scope is used you should use some look through rings, like "Ironsighter" on one of the Savage combos. I would also recommend you use a shotgun or black powder scope for the extra eye relief to keep the scope out of your eye when you fire the shotgun.

As far as rifle accuracy goes I have found both makes are about equal. They both hold less than one inch groups at a 100 yards. I will be going to the range today to sight in a new scope on the 223/12 Ga. I have a black powder Nikon Omega 3 to 9 by 40 with BDC on both combos. The scope mount on the Sparta's is a 10 MM. (There is a company that makes them just for these guns. I think it's Sun Optics out in Arizona.) While at the range today I will also be checking out the patterns with two chokes. I have an extra full, or coyote choke from each company to try out today. Both Kick's and Carlson's make various chokes for these combos.

Why do I have such an assortment of combos/ Thats because I'm planning on taking my RV and truck to pull it with and head out west, full time camping, RVing, hunting and fishing. Don't have room for my full gun cabinet. So I'm cleaning house and will be taking just three combos to cover any type of hunting that comes up. The 30-06/12 for all around big game, the 223/12 for predators and the 22 Mag/20 Ga for small game.

So I hope all this info will help you with your decision. Good luck.
OB
 
I love mine. I have a Nikon Buckmasters 4x-12x-50 SF on mine and it performs great. As mentioned, the trigger is heavy for the rifle barrel. I have yet to have a problem pulling the right trigger, or any mechanical failures. Mine came without sling studs, I installed some on mine and used dovetail steel rings and torqued them down hard. 3" dead coyote doesn't affect the 223 accuracy at all. My barrels were already tuned to have the rifle on about 75 yards or so with my reduced loads and the shotgun about 40 yds. I've quit hunting with my mossberg 3.5" and my T/C single shot 223 and carry my Baikal now. The mossberg gets used as a loaner for my hunting partner sometimes. Here's a link to a past post Link
 
I have a SPR94 in 12Ga/.308. It shoots well and the barrels shoot to the same point of aim with almost all loads. I ended up getting a Trulock .670 Turkey tube which I use with 4 Buck, 00 Buck, Turkey #4 and #6 and various other loads. I also have a Trulock Full and extra full tube. Federal Premium buckshot shot more than 2 feet high at 35 yards. Remington express buckshot in #4 and 00 shoot to the correct point of impact. All smaller shot loads (#4 and smaller) regardless of brand shot to the same point of impact as the rifle.

So far one Turkey down.

ARCOREY, Which steel Millet rings did you get? Did you specify 11mm or 3/8" rail or just 22 style rings. Medium height?
 
I was told they stopped importing the larger caliber doubles 308,30-06 over 12 ga, ect. due to some saftey issues? I want a 308/12 oir a 30-06/12 if I can ever find one.
 
rkite, I just got the .22 rings in a high style if I remember correctly. I just about bent the wrench tightening them down, but they don't move. I'll see if I still have the package for the rings and get a model # this weekend.
 
fyi...Big Green is no longer carrying the Spartan Line in 2009. Not in their catalog, and our supplier (Jerry's) is out of stock on most of the Spartan Line already.
 


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