Removing Live Primers....

scsims

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I primed about 80 223 pieces of brass and when I went to seat the bullets the neck tension wasn't enough to hold the bullet. So I think I need to readjust the sizing die.

What the best way to remove the live primers? Can I just run them into the die?
 
No need to remove the primers. just back out the expander ball/depriming pin just enough so that it doesn't touch thge primer. Sounds like your expander ball may be a little to large?
 
Were you using a Lee collet sizing die? That has happened when I have used one, from time to time. If that's the case, you have a couple of choices. The first would be to contact Lee, get a new depriming rod, cut off the decapping pin and you're back in the sizing business. The second would be to make a new rod, sans the decapping pin if you have access to a lathe, or a friend who will make one for you.
 
Like has been said, back the decapping pin upwards and run them again. If you can't do that, just run them through the die. The decapping pin will not set off the primer. do not reuse the removed primers. There will be a posibility that the anvil will be changed and you will get erratic ignition.
 
When you size your cases with the Lee collet die do it two or three times turning the case each time and be sure to use plenty of pressure on the handle each time. You can just cut the decapping pin off the Lee collet sizing die and order a new one from Lee.

There is no sizing button on the Lee collet die that is pulled thru a sized down neck to bring the case back to specs. It's all done by the collet pressure of the fingers at the top of the die pushing the case against the mandrel of the decapping pin.

Here's a pix of the die taken apart. Given if your using a Lee Collet die. If not then just ignore this post.

Leecolletsizingdie1.jpg
 
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"... do not reuse the removed primers. There will be a possibility that the anvil will be changed and you will get erratic ignition.



I re-use punched primers all the time (I mean thousands of them), and I have never had a problem... even in match ammo.


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take a drill and chuck up the mandral. Now take some sandpaper and remove .001" at a time off the mandral until the sizing die squeezes the neck down to give adequate neck tension. I have seen this with the Lee collet dies, and that is how I fixed it.
 
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"... do not reuse the removed primers. There will be a possibility that the anvil will be changed and you will get erratic ignition.



I re-use punched primers all the time (I mean thousands of them), and I have never had a problem... even in match ammo.


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I have also popped primers out and reused them. Probably 400-500 of them. The primers have shot fine when reused.
 
I would bet that a large percentage of them would fire just fine. But, the prospect of one not functioning properly and getting a bullet stuck in the bore scares me enough to toss them. Rifle and pistol primers are relatively cheap. I just prefer to use new ones.

I will reuse shotshell primers, though, which I have removed from cases. But, the pellet has some protection from pressure of the decapping pin by the way the shotshell primer is made.
 
LOL, I put "possibility" in there as a disclaimer. I knew they had been reused, just not by me. If I misloaded thousands of rounds, I would probably try to reuse them. Usually my goofs are in the single digits.
 
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LOL, I put "possibility" in there as a disclaimer. I knew they had been reused, just not by me. If I misloaded thousands of rounds, I would probably try to reuse them. Usually my goofs are in the single digits.



Ragn,
Understandable. I meant nothing by the response. And I wish I sould say the same abour small mistakes. When I got my Dtech AR I had already resized and primed all the brass in anticipation. When I got the rifle they chambered pretty hard and had to use the forward assist. I called Dtech he told me what was wrong and then I had to proceed to pop out all the primers and resize them all again. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
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I would bet that a large percentage of them would fire just fine. But, the prospect of one not functioning properly and getting a bullet stuck in the bore scares me enough to toss them.



It is not at allpossible to stick a bulletin the bore - a primer either goes completely, or it does not go at all - if it lights, all the powder burns and the bullet is gone.
 
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Sorry Weeks, That shot was aimed at my friend Cat shooter. I was just impressed he admitted to making "thousands" of oops.


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I would bet that a large percentage of them would fire just fine. But, the prospect of one not functioning properly and getting a bullet stuck in the bore scares me enough to toss them.



It is not at allpossible to stick a bulletin the bore - a primer either goes completely, or it does not go at all - if it lights, all the powder burns and the bullet is gone.



I have stuck a bullet in the bore of a 45 colt pistol. The primer ignited but the W296 powder did not and lodged that bullet mid bore. BroncoGlenn was there and we ruined his cleaning rod trying to get that bullet out. LOL /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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I would bet that a large percentage of them would fire just fine. But, the prospect of one not functioning properly and getting a bullet stuck in the bore scares me enough to toss them.



It is not at allpossible to stick a bulletin the bore - a primer either goes completely, or it does not go at all - if it lights, all the powder burns and the bullet is gone.



I have stuck a bullet in the bore of a 45 colt pistol. The primer ignited but the W296 powder did not and lodged that bullet mid bore. BroncoGlenn was there and we ruined his cleaning rod trying to get that bullet out. LOL /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif



That is not the same thing.
 
To answer you original question about removing live primers. Just use your resize die and decaper just like you normally would. I do it all the time and have never had one go bang yet. Use common sense: wear safety glasses and just use smooth strokes and you won't have any problems. I sometimes in the past have prepped 100s of cases without labeling which primer they had. I recently switched over to using nothing but winchester primers to solve that problem. I've run 100s of cases thru my dillon 650 punching live primers out and pressing in winchester primers.

With that said, removing the decapping pin like most of the post above have said is great advice too. I just wanted to answer you exact question.
 


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