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hm1996

hm1996

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Well, I've seen it all now. But what did I see?

Sitting at a stop light on 4 lane street, an auto in the left lane was stopped at the light. Right behind the car was an old Chevy pickup; I was a couple of cars back in the right lane.

The light is still red, when suddenly, the truck's right rear wheel (couldn't see the left one) started burning rubber and continued smoking it for probably 45 seconds to a minute w/o moving truck (fortunately because light was red and the car stationary only 4' or so in front of the truck.

I haven't figured out how he could spin the tire(s) w/brakes locked, and more importantly why?

Some people's chilluns!
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Regards,
hm

 
bad limited slip rear dif... we've always called it a one wheel peel.

the only way you'll get both of them smoking like that on a brake torque would be with a posi rear end.
 
HM when I was young and dumb we used get a small pair of vice grips and pinch of the rear rubber brake line above the rear diff. No rear brakes and you could sure ruin a set of rear tires in a hurry.
 
As mentioned....the Chevy Truck Owner was simply Brake Torquing the Truck locking up the front brakes and with enough power and speed the rear tires will break loose and Smoke the Tires.Years ago when We use to Race You could put a line lock on the front breaks to where You could do a Burn-Out getting the rear tires hot and sticky then back up and line up Your Car to Race.Some used simple water with their "Slicks" and others used Track Bite.
 
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We call that a brake stand here in the north. I had an old F250 with a 460 big block that used to do that if I tried to take off a little too quick even if my foot wasn't on the brakes.

Kind of reminds me of a time when I had to drive my Harley home one day with a broken clutch cable. Shifting and stopping was no big deal but getting going from a stop was a wild ride, and I had to do it in rush hour traffic. I'm sure some people were really shaking their heads when I would take off fish tailing all over.
 
Taking a big chance with a car sitting stationary right in front of him. He'd deserve an azz whipping if he grabbed traction or something tore loose and he rear ended the folks in front of him.
 
Originally Posted By: GCTaking a big chance with a car sitting stationary right in front of him. He'd deserve an azz whipping if he grabbed traction or something tore loose and he rear ended the folks in front of him.

That was my thoughts exactly, GC. I couldn't figure out how he got the front brakes to hold w/no rear brakes allowing wheels to spin. Have to admit I never thought about crimping a brake line w/visegrips.
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Not too difficult to lose traction on rear end of an empty pickup...had a 49 GMC pickup when I was a kid that you could spit on the pavement and stick it (almost).
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Regards,
hm
 
I must admit, I did this once in the parking lot of Walmart a couple of years ago....as a mature husband/father.

I was going in the "in" at the parking lot and some yuppee in an Audi was going out the "in". We met nose to nose and he started yelling and waving his hands at me....my wife said "Oh no....don't lose it..." (she knows me too well and also knows how binary I am...there is right or wrong, no gray with me)I was driving her automatic SVT Mustang and after giving him ample time to right his wrong, I proceeded to light up the triple five Nitto's and let the stainless Borla's play their song.......
I won...LOL
Saw him in the store about five minutes later and asked him if he ever figured out what the giant yellow arrow in the parking lot meant(in a kind and concerned manner) he wouldn't make eye contact and turned and left.
I felt warm and fuzzy inside.
 
"Back in the Day", when we were young and stupid, (and had drum brakes) we used to adjust the front wheel brakes tighter than the rear ones...With a modification to the exhaust that would create the "Flame Thrower" effect, a few seconds of burning the tread off of those old balloon rear tires, with the exhaust pipes shooting flame, would create quite and impressive sight...Certainly irritating to the 'older' generation..
 
That was a real man.. That's how they do.. Proud alpha male.. A tactic to establish dominance over the herd and attract females
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Back in the day when I had fast street cars I had a windshield washer pump with an outlet in front of each rear wheel with VHT traction compound in the tank. I won the majority of my races because I could hook up and the other guy lit the tires. My cars always had dull oxidized paint, mismatched wheels, no chrome on the engine and an engineered exhaust leak. It would take a year or so for the reputation to get around so I'd go find another beater and do it again. I made some serious bucks back then........far too dangerous now.
 
Originally Posted By: DesertRamJust another Friday night at a Sonic Drive-in in small town New Mexico.
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It happens at Sonic's in Missouri also. A long time ago I broke the motor mount on a '72 Dodge Challenger at our local Sonic. The concrete finish of the drive through at Sonic was super slick and when exiting a guy could really make some smoke. I had that 340 Challenger redlined when I crept forward enough to leave the slick concrete and abruptly hit the blacktop street. BOOM went the the motor mount when I grabbed traction and second gear at the same time. I tried to explain it to dad but I knew he had it figured out when he asked if there were any girls around when this happened. I blame Sonic and tight cheerleader outfits for the incident.
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Quote:I blame Sonic and tight cheerleader outfits for the incident

Betcha dad didn't consider that a valid excuse, did he? Understandable maybe, but not valid.
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Regards,
hm
 
Originally Posted By: GCOriginally Posted By: DesertRamJust another Friday night at a Sonic Drive-in in small town New Mexico.
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It happens at Sonic's in Missouri also. A long time ago I broke the motor mount on a '72 Dodge Challenger at our local Sonic. The concrete finish of the drive through at Sonic was super slick and when exiting a guy could really make some smoke.

just got sonic up here a couple years ago, but there was a car wash near us with the same super slick blacktop coating on their lot right near my cousin's place back in the day. we'd come out and of coruse with wet tires you could roast away. when you're sideways and doing a ace ventura parking job with a s-10 blazer at the vac's it always turned heads. Most of the local nuggets couldn't put together wet pavement + RWD = drifting central and always assumed it was some kind of hopped up build
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course sh!t like that is fun when you're in your teens and dad bought the tires....
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Originally Posted By: hm1996 Quote:I blame Sonic and tight cheerleader outfits for the incident

Betcha dad didn't consider that a valid excuse, did he? Understandable maybe, but not valid.
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Regards,
hm

Dad was actually pretty cool about it. After all, he bought the car for me and he had to expect something like that at some point. We did have a talk about responsibility and respecting the power of a fast car. I had to pay for the repair. It was one of those little life lessons.
 
Yep Dad always ran his hand behind the rear wheels of my 67 mustang in the morning. Racing was against the rules. But I was a teenager with a hot rod and I always ran it through the car wash before I went home.
 
just like taking my truck offroading. i'd always get the guys to chip in a couple bucks each so we could stop at the car wash on the way home to clean the blazer up. learned the hard way you have to remember to flush the tube on the trailer hitch too
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Quote: Dad always ran his hand behind the rear wheels of my 67 mustang in the morning.

Originally Posted By: Plant.Onejust like taking my truck offroading. i'd always get the guys to chip in a couple bucks each so we could stop at the car wash on the way home to clean the blazer up. learned the hard way you have to remember to flush the tube on the trailer hitch too
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Yep, dads are pretty resourceful sometimes. Almost like they have been there done that.
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As I teenager several of us had Whizzer motor bikes. A close buddy and I would ride around and invariably we'd make a pass in front of his girl friends house. The Whizzers had an exhaust valve control that would hold valve open in order to make them easier to start. You could, of course open the valve while running and cause multiple backfires, then close it and motor would re-start.

Well my friend used that as a signal for his GF to come out and talk. One night we made several passes and his GF didn't come out. On the last pass, he said, "lets go by once more and if she doesn't come out we'll go home." She didn't and we did.

We were sitting at his dining room table afterward when his dad came in and asked where we had been. Bud replied, "oh just riding around". Sat there a couple of minutes in silence, when his dad got a smile on his face and said, "lets go by once more and if she doesn't come out we'll go home." Shoulda seen the look on my bud's face!
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That was 65 years ago and we never did figure out how he knew.

Regards,
hm
 


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