Safe Anchoring

[bobeano]

So i have had a Cannon gun safe for a few year and never anchored it to floor. I have a modular home and think it time to anchor it. I need to move it soon anyway to have new carpet installed. I had a idea of putting in a section of hard wood flooring whee the safe will sit,and carpet the rest of room
My question is how big and what type of bolts/anchors to use?
Also ant other tips or suggestions would be helpfull
Thanks

 

[topweldor1]

Do you know what the subfloor is made of? MDF or plywood. Do you have a crawl space, if so just drill through and bolt with 1/2" bolts. Plywood and MDF don't hold lags very well.

 

[jetman]

Is it a very big safe?
If it is I would not do anything. The floor in any modern home is Just pressed wood chips and would do little to stop anyone from ripping it out if that is your concern.

Our safe required a concrete slab under it. Even with that weight, we anchored it with LONG concrete anchors.

 

[pyscodog]

If your flooring is compressed wood and you have crawl space, I'd use ,maybe 1/2 inch bolts and drill through the flooring. Then instead of washers, I'd use 1/4 inch plate steel,maybe 4x4 square,drill a hole to match the bolt diameter and use the plates as a washer. It will be a lot harder to tear that plate through the flooring than just a nut or bolt head. If no crawl space then probably just let it set on the floor. If you have a concrete floor there are lots of other options.

 

[AWS]

Double post

 

[AWS]

When I had mine on a wood floor I also ran a couple of lag bolts through the back into a stud so they couldn't rock it loose or get a strap around it to winch it loose (heavy duty ratchet strap to a 4x4 across a door way).

Now on concrete four concrete anchors and built in under the stairs, pretty much have to dismantle a wall to get to it and very hard to oil can.

 

[bobeano]

its a 24 gun size,floor is a particle type,yes i have a crawl space
i thought id anchoret just slow them down some. i am sure if they wanna take it bad enough they will ripe it out of floor

 

[Plant.One]

anchor it to the wall studs thru the back.


if you cant line it up to at least one stud... anchor a peice of 3/4 plywood to the studs and then run some butterfly anchors into that.

if they cant tip it over, they cant take it with them. also its a WHOLE Lot harder to break into a safe when its upright vs on its back.

flip it on its back and its f*cked like a turtle

skip to about 2:20 for the scary part if you dont wanna watch the intro

 

[Tnslim]

Plant One that's good advice. Thanks

 

[dennyd]

Ya put it on U-tube show the world how to do it, if they both would have had a long bar
it would have taken half the time.
I would put anchor bolts in the back wall for sure and the floor if I could.
Second thing needed is a safe with 2 0r 3 latches on the door and no gap like the one in the video., and a much more meaty door. LOL

 

[hm1996]

Some interesting videos you might find interesting:



Regards,
hm

 

[Plant.One]

Originally Posted By: TnslimPlant One that's good advice. Thanks

np problem.

as a renter its a solution ive had to work with for a while now since drilling holes in hardwood or laminate flooring is generally frowned upon by landlords and fairly hard to repair before moving out.

a few holes in the drywall is ez to patch.

and 3" x 3/8" (or ½" or whatever size your safe holes are) lag bolts will NOT pull out of old dry - and often hard as iron - wall studs very easily. when i just had my stack-on i remember pulling on that thing hard enough to worry about bending the door frame testing if it was secure.

Just remember to pilot drill the studs properly first so you dont split them going in.

my last house was built postwar in the late 40's and them old 2x4's.. ugh. i put wax on the lag bolts (lube) to get them to go into the studs easier after horsing the first one in there dry lol

same thing here when i was mounting my TV's (and safe) on the wall in my current home... this neighborhood went up in the late 50s and early 60s.... [beeep] studs have been drying out for ~60 years when i got here and started running hardware into them. thank god for the cordless impactor, but still... without a little wax that poor bosch would have been *really* struggling and i still had to finish the last half inch or so by hand with a ratchet.

i know that 55" tv aint coming down thats for d@mn sure - if my big @$$ handing off it aint gonna pull those lags outa the stud.. no way a 30lb tv will