Savage Axis or Mossberg ATR 243?
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I have a Savage 10 and a Mossberg ATR both are great shooters. I would get the Mossberg ATR over the Axis but not the 10. Like stated, better trigger. The ATR has alot of similar Savage features, adjustable trigger,pillar bedded stock,free floating barrel, floating bolt head as well as a barrel nut. IMO the Mossberg is one of the best "economy" rifles on the market. For a few dollars more I would recommend the Savage model 10 though.
DannoBoone
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Awhile back, I had questions going around the 'net about which
to get, the Mossberg ATR or a Marlin XS7. A lot of responses
was that Mossberg cut too many corners making their bolt actions.
The consensus was to get the XS7, so that's what I did. It too
has the Savage (have 4 of those) type trigger and is quite
crisp. Out of box accuracy was well within MOA, but the stock
sucks and the barrel was too "thin" for my liking. Don't know
if the ATR barrel is that thin or not. About all I ended up
with that is original is the action, and for a "build" as it
turned out, $325 is not bad at all for an action in today's
market.
All that being said, the Marlin's out of box accuracy is
pretty darned good, and if you like a light weight rifle, it
fits that bill, too. Savage barrels fit the X7's, so it's
relatively easy to get spare barrels.
to get, the Mossberg ATR or a Marlin XS7. A lot of responses
was that Mossberg cut too many corners making their bolt actions.
The consensus was to get the XS7, so that's what I did. It too
has the Savage (have 4 of those) type trigger and is quite
crisp. Out of box accuracy was well within MOA, but the stock
sucks and the barrel was too "thin" for my liking. Don't know
if the ATR barrel is that thin or not. About all I ended up
with that is original is the action, and for a "build" as it
turned out, $325 is not bad at all for an action in today's
market.
All that being said, the Marlin's out of box accuracy is
pretty darned good, and if you like a light weight rifle, it
fits that bill, too. Savage barrels fit the X7's, so it's
relatively easy to get spare barrels.
NdIndy
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I've never shot the ATR, I handled one for about 10 minutes and played with the action before deciding I'd rather not ever own one.
To me, personally, adjustable triggers are a big expensive waste of money. Every trigger I've worked/adjusted has been done to 1 setting and there it stays forever. If I was adjusting the trigger every day, I can see the benefit but other than that I'd rather spend $100 on something else. That's assuming it's a $100 difference between the base and the adjustable. Same reason I won't spend extra money just to have an accutrigger.
I did end up with an edge in the arsenal in 25-06, great shooter. Repeated touching groups while setting the scope, and pretty is all in the target when it comes to firearms. Worst it has shot was still really f'in good
To me, personally, adjustable triggers are a big expensive waste of money. Every trigger I've worked/adjusted has been done to 1 setting and there it stays forever. If I was adjusting the trigger every day, I can see the benefit but other than that I'd rather spend $100 on something else. That's assuming it's a $100 difference between the base and the adjustable. Same reason I won't spend extra money just to have an accutrigger.
I did end up with an edge in the arsenal in 25-06, great shooter. Repeated touching groups while setting the scope, and pretty is all in the target when it comes to firearms. Worst it has shot was still really f'in good
pukindog
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Originally Posted By: getfoxyPukindog- I'm not sure if you can change bbls as easily on the edge/axis as you can on the Stevens 200 and others
That's disappointing news. If that is the case then I would rather have a Stevens 200.
Originally Posted By: NdIndySame barrel, same nut, same amount of work.
OK, so maybe it's not so disappointing after all.
That's disappointing news. If that is the case then I would rather have a Stevens 200.
Originally Posted By: NdIndySame barrel, same nut, same amount of work.
OK, so maybe it's not so disappointing after all.
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NdIndy
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You have to remember what savage was after when they made the edge, and that was inexpensive quality. You don't get inexpensive by spending millions on retooling for a barrel different than what you already make. A lot of it was simply finding what they were using 5 parts for that they could do with 1, and what took 10 minutes to install instead of 10 seconds. Labor eats up more money than parts in 90% of what you can buy.
It does cause some 'problems' when compared to more expensive rifles, like there is no replacement recoil pad. You don't get the IMO highly over rated accu-trigger etc. But by the same token it's pretty unfair to compare the 2 in that regard. But if I have a $200 rifle that shoots as good or better than my $1000 rifle, I'm happy and don't really need some of the bells and whistles. I care about what happens downrange, not what the thing on my shoulder looks like.
FWIW I've never rebarreled one, going purely off the the word of smiths that have.
It does cause some 'problems' when compared to more expensive rifles, like there is no replacement recoil pad. You don't get the IMO highly over rated accu-trigger etc. But by the same token it's pretty unfair to compare the 2 in that regard. But if I have a $200 rifle that shoots as good or better than my $1000 rifle, I'm happy and don't really need some of the bells and whistles. I care about what happens downrange, not what the thing on my shoulder looks like.
FWIW I've never rebarreled one, going purely off the the word of smiths that have.
Bottom line in guns is you either buy a shooter or not. With a new gun most will shoot pretty dang good for the most part, regardless of the make. About the only modification sometimes needed is to maybe work the trigger if needed. Im a big Savage fan, but I dont really care for the accutrigger that much. My preaccutrigger .243 has a very nice factory trigger. You wont go wrong with either gun you choose!